kumnio Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 We aren’t doing it at the Euros. Wonder who will go in a strop over it.
GaryWood34 Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Adults can make their own decision. Sensible to me.
DAVIDB46 Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 It’s outlived it’s usefulness needs something else to take it forward
Malcolm Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Taking the knee was devalued by uefa not living by it. Pointless.
Texas Pete Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 It’s a pointless exercise but will be odd when England do it if we don’t. Are we just going to stand there like plamfs?
Grim Jim Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Wait for their booing section, then wheecht out our black gloves, drop our heads, and raise a fist.
killiefaetheferry Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Grim Jim said: Wait for their booing section, then wheecht out our black gloves, drop our heads, and raise a fist. Half doing this, a few going balaclavas and berets, a couple with Malvinas flags and a big photo held up of Diego doing The Hand of God.
LeightonsRicketts Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Just standing there does nothing to highlight the fight against racial inequality. I would have liked us to have formed some manner of demonstration. Linking arms with the opposition would have been a powerful gesture. Perhaps a warm up top with an anti-racist message. Or holding up a sign before kick off, or when the captains exchange tokens. England's battle with their racist support and their player's highlighted stance of taking a knee just makes it look like we are being contrary and our players perceived as bigots. I feel the majority of players may well have ceded to a couple of more vocal voices in the group who are against taking a knee, to the detriment of the group.
GaryWood34 Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, LeightonsRicketts said: Just standing there does nothing to highlight the fight against racial inequality. I would have liked us to have formed some manner of demonstration. Linking arms with the opposition would have been a powerful gesture. Perhaps a warm up top with an anti-racist message. Or holding up a sign before kick off, or when the captains exchange tokens. England's battle with their racist support and their player's highlighted stance of taking a knee just makes it look like we are being contrary and our players perceived as bigots. I feel the majority of players may well have ceded to a couple of more vocal voices in the group who are against taking a knee, to the detriment of the group. I’d rather we played football.
Texas Pete Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeightonsRicketts said: Just standing there does nothing to highlight the fight against racial inequality. I would have liked us to have formed some manner of demonstration. Linking arms with the opposition would have been a powerful gesture. Perhaps a warm up top with an anti-racist message. Or holding up a sign before kick off, or when the captains exchange tokens. England's battle with their racist support and their player's highlighted stance of taking a knee just makes it look like we are being contrary and our players perceived as bigots. I feel the majority of players may well have ceded to a couple of more vocal voices in the group who are against taking a knee, to the detriment of the group. It’s not really that straightforward though is it? Plenty of black people are against taking the knee.
GaryWood34 Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Let people knee if they want. Let folk stand if they want. The euros are about football. Let’s watch the football.
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 This is starting to become American's and kneeling at the anthem. A well-meaning gesture initially but overtime it starts to become more about the gesture and your side being in the right about the the gesture, than the actual issue.
LeightonsRicketts Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: It’s not really that straightforward though is it? Plenty of black people are against taking the knee. You'll be telling us you have a black friend next and that all lives matter. 🙄
Texas Pete Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, LeightonsRicketts said: You'll be telling us you have a black friend next and that all lives matter. 🙄 Pardon me? Are you Taylor in disguise? If you think it’s as simple as your post above then you really don’t understand the issue at all.
LeightonsRicketts Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, GaryWood34 said: Let people knee if they want. Let folk stand if they want. The euros are about football. Let’s watch the football. "Let folk stand if they want " You are clearly not a steward in the North Stand at Hampden.
duncan II Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, LeightonsRicketts said: "Let folk stand if they want " You are clearly not a steward in the North Stand at Hampden. I think we should be showing solidarity with those who face racism. I think we should take the knee. Not gonna “go in a strop” about it but strongly feel it’s the right thing to do.
LeightonsRicketts Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Texas Pete said: Pardon me? Are you Taylor in disguise? If you think it’s as simple as your post above then you really don’t understand the issue at all. I have complete appreciation of the issue and your stance.
LeightonsRicketts Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, duncan II said: I think we should be showing solidarity with those who face racism. I think we should take the knee. Not gonna “go in a strop” about it but strongly feel it’s the right thing to do. You'd think Forrest would be all for it as it would be the first time in his career he is the same height as everyone else in a team photo!
Texas Pete Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, LeightonsRicketts said: I have complete appreciation of the issue and your stance. I don’t really have a stance on it so I’m not sure how you can appreciate it but OK.
kumnio Posted June 10, 2021 Author Posted June 10, 2021 Kneeing good. Standing bad. Etc etc If you stand, you must be x, anyone this simplistic shouldn’t be allowed out in public. It’s achieved bugger all, it’s nothing more than a token exercise.
ProudScot Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Who gives a shit. Hopefully this kneeling nonsense ends soon. What a load of pish it is really
King Of Paisley Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, kumnio said: Kneeing good. Standing bad. Etc etc If you stand, you must be x, anyone this simplistic shouldn’t be allowed out in public. It’s achieved bugger all, it’s nothing more than a token exercise. Correct. The point has been made about George Floyd. And if it offends wokeists, too bad. It’s all about freedom of expression. It’s got to a point where if you don’t take a knee then you are in cahoots with Tommy Robinson and his band of arse wipes
ParisInAKilt Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 Good way to virtue signal though. Take the knee you bigot.
Hercules Rockefeller Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Texas Pete said: Pardon me? Are you Taylor in disguise? If you think it’s as simple as your post above then you really don’t understand the issue at all. Exactly this. Another moron eagerly waiting by the keyboard to denounce everyone as a racist. Glad we're taking the common sense approach and steering clear of pledging allegiance to the incredibly divisive BLM and instead standing up to racism. How many more years to the FA want England to do this? One more year? Two years? Infinitely? The simple fact is that, at least in the UK, the gesture is associated with an organisation who loathe our culture, our values and have routinely trashed our war memorials. Having had a family member serve and lose their life defending our values, and seeing BLM morons graffiti the Cenotaph was an image I'll never forget. Stand up to racism rather than bow down to these thugs.
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