Texas Pete Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rolling hIlls said: I do watch the games but never knew he started that many. My point is if taverneir is fit he won't get much game time. Yeah I pointed that out in another thread as well. He won’t be our first choice RB or right wing back next season unless he goes out on loan (doubtful as Rangers would need to replace him) or Tavernier leaves Rangers which is also unlikely or if Tavernier picks up another serious injury. Most people want Clarke to start Patterson ahead of O’Donnell on Monday but Patterson hasn’t started a game since the 18th of April. Patterson is really in the squad as back up for O’Donnell but he does of course have the chance to change Clarke’s mind on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: Yeah I pointed that out in another thread as well. He won’t be our first choice RB or right wing back next season unless he goes out on loan (doubtful as Rangers would need to replace him) or Tavernier leaves Rangers which is also unlikely or if Tavernier picks up another serious injury. Most people want Clarke to start Patterson ahead of O’Donnell on Monday but Patterson hasn’t started a game since the 18th of April. Patterson is really in the squad as back up for O’Donnell but he does of course have the chance to change Clarke’s mind on that. He has played as a right winger almost for the U21s, so may get some time in a similar role at Rangers. In any case, I think he will get games in the cup competitions or as a sub - much more so than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: He has played as a right winger almost for the U21s, so may get some time in a similar role at Rangers. In any case, I think he will get games in the cup competitions or as a sub - much more so than last year. I doubt he’ll play more at RB next season than he did this season for Rangers. He had an extended run in the team with Tavernier being out which is what brought him to people’s attention. I also doubt he’ll play anywhere else for Rangers unless they have injury problems in other areas of the pitch that he could cover. Even if he does play the odd cup game or come on as a sub that’s unlikely to make him first choice for Scotland. I would imagine Tavernier will move on from Rangers in a couple of years and Patterson will replace him. If that happens then he’ll definitely be a starter for Scotland as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I didn't want to start a new topic, but why are the Scotland squad based in Darlington and not in Scotland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paper_lion Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, fringo said: I didn't want to start a new topic, but why are the Scotland squad based in Darlington and not in Scotland ? I believe Croatia & Czech Republic were the first to sign up to base their teams in Scotland. Presumably because they automatically qualified they were able to get first dibs. I believe the Czechs took the Oriam one. Scotland then took Middlesborough/Darlington. Probably because it has better facilities than the 3rd best available in Scotland. Croatia & Czech Republic then changed their minds and decided to stay at home after UEFA warned them of what would happen to the squad in Scotland if they had positive cases. The Edinburgh and St.Andrews facilities will be sitting empty now. Presumably it would be too much hastle for Scotland to change their plans at such short notice. Edited June 9, 2021 by paper_lion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, paper_lion said: I believe Croatia & Czech Republic were the first to sign up to base their teams in Scotland. Presumably because they automatically qualified they were able to get first dibs. I believe the Czechs took the Oriam one. Scotland then took Middlesborough/Darlington. Probably because it has better facilities than the 3rd best available in Scotland. Croatia & Czech Republic then changed their minds and decided to stay at home after UEFA warned them of what would happen to the squad in Scotland if they had positive cases. The Edinburgh and St.Andrews facilities will be sitting empty now. Presumably it would be too much hastle for Scotland to change their plans at such short notice. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, paper_lion said: I believe Croatia & Czech Republic were the first to sign up to base their teams in Scotland. Presumably because they automatically qualified they were able to get first dibs. I believe the Czechs took the Oriam one. Scotland then took Middlesborough/Darlington. Probably because it has better facilities than the 3rd best available in Scotland. Croatia & Czech Republic then changed their minds and decided to stay at home after UEFA warned them of what would happen to the squad in Scotland if they had positive cases. The Edinburgh and St.Andrews facilities will be sitting empty now. Presumably it would be too much hastle for Scotland to change their plans at such short notice. Yes I agree. Also I feel it is beneficial as it gives the players are more relaxed build up away from the glare of Scottish media hyping things up. They will be out of that down there where the media will be focussing on England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Texas Pete said: I doubt he’ll play more at RB next season than he did this season for Rangers. He had an extended run in the team with Tavernier being out which is what brought him to people’s attention. I also doubt he’ll play anywhere else for Rangers unless they have injury problems in other areas of the pitch that he could cover. Even if he does play the odd cup game or come on as a sub that’s unlikely to make him first choice for Scotland. I would imagine Tavernier will move on from Rangers in a couple of years and Patterson will replace him. If that happens then he’ll definitely be a starter for Scotland as well. I think Patterson is more likely to leave Rangers than Tavernier. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: I think Patterson is more likely to leave Rangers than Tavernier. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is this summer. Unlikely. Unless he sets the Euros alight and attracts some big offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes I agree. Also I feel it is beneficial as it gives the players are more relaxed build up away from the glare of Scottish media hyping things up. They will be out of that down there where the media will be focussing on England. That might have been true the last time Scotland were in the Euros, but does it apply today? Players will have lots of free time where they'll sit reading their social media. Hell, i bet some of them even end up looking at the TAMB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamessm238 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Marshall Hanley Cooper KT So’D. Robbo Mctominay Mcgregor McGinn Dykes Adams Thats how I think we’ll lineup but wouldn’t be surprised to see Christie over Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, paper_lion said: I believe Croatia & Czech Republic were the first to sign up to base their teams in Scotland. Presumably because they automatically qualified they were able to get first dibs. I believe the Czechs took the Oriam one. Scotland then took Middlesborough/Darlington. Probably because it has better facilities than the 3rd best available in Scotland. Croatia & Czech Republic then changed their minds and decided to stay at home after UEFA warned them of what would happen to the squad in Scotland if they had positive cases. The Edinburgh and St.Andrews facilities will be sitting empty now. Presumably it would be too much hastle for Scotland to change their plans at such short notice. Plus Middlesborough’s training ground is right across the road from the hotel, all in the same complex. The only other option I read late last year was staying at Mar Hall and using Murray Park (or whatever its called now) but that meant a drive every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said: I think Patterson is more likely to leave Rangers than Tavernier. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is this summer. think he could do a job at a club like hearts. Likely to get first team action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Malcolm said: think he could do a job at a club like hearts. Likely to get first team action Unless he goes on loan to Hearts there’s no chance he’ll go there. Hearts (or probably any other Scottish Premiership club apart from Celtic) couldn’t afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Malcolm said: think he could do a job at a club like hearts. Likely to get first team action I think you’re having a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Dave78 said: That might have been true the last time Scotland were in the Euros, but does it apply today? Players will have lots of free time where they'll sit reading their social media. Hell, i bet some of them even end up looking at the TAMB! God, I hope not. Though they'd probably get more constructive feedback on here than perusing the toxic waste that is the comments on Twitter. On the most part, at least recently, we are all fairly positive. It very rarely gets personal, unlike what you see on other forums and social media. Most of the disagreements are healthy disputes over who should and shouldn't start. The depth we have is insane and I'd trust all 26 players to put their heart and soul into this tournament. Every single one of them are there on merit, and we were just about all in agreement with the squad selection. How Clarke can pick just 11 on Monday is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Malcolm said: think he could do a job at a club like hearts. Likely to get first team action Unless Rangers pay his wages there’s no danger Hearts or any other non old firm club could afford him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Dave78 said: That might have been true the last time Scotland were in the Euros, but does it apply today? Players will have lots of free time where they'll sit reading their social media. Hell, i bet some of them even end up looking at the TAMB! Still a big step up from 'the goldfish bowl' treatment they would have received if based in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Tartan blood said: God, I hope not. Though they'd probably get more constructive feedback on here than perusing the toxic waste that is the comments on Twitter. On the most part, at least recently, we are all fairly positive. It very rarely gets personal, unlike what you see on other forums and social media. Most of the disagreements are healthy disputes over who should and shouldn't start. The depth we have is insane and I'd trust all 26 players to put their heart and soul into this tournament. Every single one of them are there on merit, and we were just about all in agreement with the squad selection. How Clarke can pick just 11 on Monday is beyond me. 😂 thats no got ‘disclaimer’ written all over it at all . Would be a bit ironic if a Scotland player took the board down given all the trolls that have been trying so hard to do it 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I've just got everything crossed that no-one returns to the camp and tests positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Toepoke said: I've just got everything crossed that no-one returns to the camp and tests positive Yes that is important. However, not the end of it as they would return a negative test as they mat be in the incubation period and so may not show up as positive for another seven days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes that is important. However, not the end of it as they would return a negative test as they mat be in the incubation period and so may not show up as positive for another seven days. Even worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Even worse! Indeed. We can only hope they families were responsible enough to make sure they'd all been tested a week before the visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Indeed. We can only hope they families were responsible enough to make sure they'd all been tested a week before the visit. I get that a lot of these guys are fathers, and seeing their children could be the elixir they need going into the tournament. As with everything pandemic related, if you use common sense, you will be fine. But we are relying on probably hundreds of people being responsible. Fingers, toes, arms and eyes crossed. Losing Fleck was bad enough. Edited June 10, 2021 by Tartan blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: 😂 thats no got ‘disclaimer’ written all over it at all . Would be a bit ironic if a Scotland player took the board down given all the trolls that have been trying so hard to do it 😁 😂 I did nearly go back and check my post history to see if I had said anything too cutting. But I think I generally just point out things players lack, that they could work on. It is important to remember this and all social media is a public forum and there are real people on the other side that can be affected by this. Some more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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