ceudmilefailte Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Bino's said: We need to play a 5 in midfield and keep possession like a modern football team Spin and Italy both played 4/3/3 last night. Seems to work for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 34 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Spin and Italy both played 4/3/3 last night. Seems to work for them. That's a 451 Absolutely no one plays 3 genuine strikers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 11:51 AM, Squirrelhumper said: Great move for Gilmour, Norwich play decent football. Can't actually believe there are folk that wanted him to sign for Rangers. He left Rangers for a reason. Although the Rangers he left is not the same as the team now. A lot of positive progress has been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Norwich is a good move for him. If he'd have gone to Rangers for a season, like any young skilful player who has a go up here he'd have had the living fuck kicked out of him by the designated hatchet men most other Scottish Premiership sides have and risked serious injury. And no, that's not "character building experience" - that's moron talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bino's said: That's a 451 Absolutely no one plays 3 genuine strikers It's a 433 without 3 strikers Two of your "midfielders" play closer to the forward than they do to the midfield. They also play wider than they would in a 4321 so they are not behind the striker. Hence 433. I keep saying our best recent performances were the 4-0 against Albania and the 3-2 against Israel in those two games we played a front three of Fraser,Fletcher and Forrest and I'm sure you will agree they were a lot more entertaining than the dross served up recently. Croatia beat us playing 433 with Perisic and Vlasic closer to their main striker than they were to the remainder of he midfield. Having said that Modric was everywhere. We have far better players now for the three central midfielders and I think, Fraser, Mcginn,Christie,Gauld and Turnbull could all play the forward roles. They can all carry the ball towards the box and they can all deliver short killer passes. IMO it's better to lose playing to win than to lose playing not to lose. Edited July 3, 2021 by ceudmilefailte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: It's a 433 without 3 strikers Two of your "midfielders" play closer to the forward than they do to the midfield. They also play wider than they would in a 4321 so they are not behind the striker. Hence 433. I keep saying our best recent performances were the 4-0 against Albania and the 3-2 against Israel in those two games we played a front three of Fraser,Fletcher and Forrest and I'm sure you will agree they were a lot more entertaining than the dross served up recently. Croatia beat us playing 433 with Perisic and Vlasic closer to their main striker than they were to the remainder of he midfield. Having said that Modric was everywhere. We have far better players now for the three central midfielders and I think, Fraser, Mcginn,Christie,Gauld and Turnbull could all play the forward roles. They can all carry the ball towards the box and they can all deliver short killer passes. IMO it's better to lose playing to win than to lose playing not to lose. No one has played with three strikers this century Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bino's said: No one has played with three strikers this century I give up. Couldn't explain that much more clearly. Google it, the formation is used all around Europe. Edited July 3, 2021 by ceudmilefailte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: I give up. Couldn't explain that much more clearly. Google it, the formation is used all around Europe. No need to explain it They're all 451's or 541's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bino's said: No need to explain it They're all 451's or 541 Aye let's go back to an islolated forward up front running around like a hadless chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Back to Billy Gilmour... supposedly has a wee brother who's pretty good. Hopefully he's a right back or a centre forward or a goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 10 hours ago, daviebee said: Back to Billy Gilmour... supposedly has a wee brother who's pretty good. Hopefully he's a right back or a centre forward or a goalie. What youth team is he at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just read a wee bit up on him, says chelsea were trying to pinch him away from kilie? Heres hoping hes on the same path as his brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Hopefully he goes to Chelsea and gets the same coaching as his brother did and gets the fek out of Kilmarnock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, ProudScot said: Hopefully he goes to Chelsea and gets the same coaching as his brother did and gets the fek out of Kilmarnock Was on the bench for Killie 17s last weekend in a cup final so he'll have a bit to do before hes at Chelsea I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: Was on the bench for Killie 17s last weekend in a cup final so he'll have a bit to do before hes at Chelsea I think. Not bad for a 15 year old tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, aaid said: Not bad for a 15 year old tbf I think it's more the over hype he has gotten due to who his brother is and that he plays the same position and style. Too many getting ahead of themselves and hoping for 2 young brothers who are technically gifted and would completely change our style of play to a team that dominates the ball. At the same age Billy was playing for the Rangers u20s and training with the Rangers first team. I'm not running Harvey down just Gilmour was a special talent, a level above back then aswell. Hopefully Harvey develops as his own man and doesn't get drowned under the pressure of being hyped as Gilmour's younger brother. Too many players have been lost over expectations of who their relative was. In saying that if given the chance he should follow a similar career path and join Chelsea at 16 like his brother. The level of facilities, coaching and player will just be so far above what he'll get at Kilmarnock (same with Billy at Rangers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 As a Killie fan I'd be delighted if Harvey turns out to be as talented as Billy, but we have previous when it comes to signing great players' "less good" brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 16 hours ago, aaid said: Not bad for a 15 year old tbf Never said it wasn't. He might turn out a great player but his bro was training with Rangers first team at 15. Folk need to calm down with the comparisons, that's all i'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Im presuming its Harvey Gilmour that was with Billy and his parents in the Norwich loan signing video. If so he has some good ball control but looks tiny for his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Never said it wasn't. He might turn out a great player but his bro was training with Rangers first team at 15. Folk need to calm down with the comparisons, that's all i'm saying. Pretty promising playing at 1 or 2 years up. My wee lassie just passed an audition for Scottish Youth Ballet 😀. All the other girls about 2 years older than her. She asked us to pay for 2 hours of gymnastic coaching a week, just to help her in her ballet 😦😂. Great attitude and dedicated apart from her chocolate (dairy free) addiction. Her mum was a dancer when she was younger and says the wee one has a genuine chance. It's great to see kids doing what they love and being dedicated and strong. Not all will make it so you can only hope they keep at it at a lower level just for enjoyment. I got punted from the Ayrshire schools trials when i was 17 for being to wee 😂. It was a massive step too far for me but I played Uni and amateur into my thirties 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Diamond Scot said: Im presuming its Harvey Gilmour that was with Billy and his parents in the Norwich loan signing video. If so he has some good ball control but looks tiny for his age. Aye it was and yeah hes a good bit smaller than Billy. Heard nothing but good things about him but folk need to stop putting massive expectations on him. Hopefully he has a great career though. The more the merrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 hours ago, killiefaetheferry said: Pretty promising playing at 1 or 2 years up. My wee lassie just passed an audition for Scottish Youth Ballet 😀. All the other girls about 2 years older than her. She asked us to pay for 2 hours of gymnastic coaching a week, just to help her in her ballet 😦😂. Great attitude and dedicated apart from her chocolate (dairy free) addiction. Her mum was a dancer when she was younger and says the wee one has a genuine chance. It's great to see kids doing what they love and being dedicated and strong. Not all will make it so you can only hope they keep at it at a lower level just for enjoyment. I got punted from the Ayrshire schools trials when i was 17 for being to wee 😂. It was a massive step too far for me but I played Uni and amateur into my thirties 👍 Ha good stuff. Wish I was that good at any sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 7/5/2021 at 8:28 AM, Toepoke said: As a Killie fan I'd be delighted if Harvey turns out to be as talented as Billy, but we have previous when it comes to signing great players' "less good" brothers. Just been released by Kilmarnock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Looks like Caicedo on the move for Brighton now. Not sure what type of midfielder he is but surely frees up even more space for Gilmour. Brighton are going to be absolutely minted now tho on the flip side so could go out and buy replacements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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