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[COLT NY]

2 minutes ago, Toepoke said:

 

Why wouldn't they play it at the Millenium? Full crowd there for a big game would surely be more imposing?

 

 

[breeks_mctavish]

40 minutes ago, todd said:

Me too but can't quite decide which is easier, to snap someone's hand off or bite it off 🤔 Either way I'd definitely take it 😁

You would certainly do some serious time for either option 🙂

[Malcolm]

It’s a big if that we get by Ukraine but if we do, and if I was Wales, I would give us zero tickets.

[GaryWood34]

20 minutes ago, COLT NY said:

 

Six nations 

[calum83]

i think if we beat ukraine and get austria this covid lockdown stuff should be well over by then. could we do it again and this time for the world cup finals 

 

[todd]

33 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said:

Still a good result. Denmark had already qualified as well. Wales beat belgium to get to the euros semis back in 2016 as well. They are a good side with some decent players. Obviously bale and Ramsay are their big guns but they have some good players who play epl or have played epl football. If it was at Hampden I would give us the edge. 

That's true but Belgium had nothing to play for really where as, I think, Denmark were determined to qualify with that 100% record.  At home I'd rather play Austria in the final but away I'd rather Wales so I'll be supporting wales for their semi 

[ger intae them]

4 minutes ago, GaryWood34 said:

Six nations 

they play Italy on 19th…… plenty of time for groundsmen to get into it…… ?

[todd]

13 minutes ago, breeks_mctavish said:

You would certainly do some serious time for either option 🙂

Unless it's a consensual hand job 😁

[Rich NATA]

2 minutes ago, GaryWood34 said:

Six nations 

I think the 6 Nations finishes 10 days beforehand. Long enough to prep the pitch, I would think.

 

I don't think the WFA will move it to the Millennium, but if I was Welsh I'd be screaming for them to do so.

A fervent Millennium would be more intimidating than the Cardiff City Stadium.  

[GaryWood34]

3 minutes ago, ger intae them said:

they play Italy on 19th…… plenty of time for groundsmen to get into it…… ?

A week after weeks of matches of rugby? 

Plus their players are completely used to the Cardiff city stadium by now so they should keep it there.

I think Austria will beat them anyway and we will all be off to a far nicer city

[breeks_mctavish]

4 minutes ago, todd said:

Unless it's a consensual hand job 😁

What we snapping off now? 😂

[Marky]

1 hour ago, todd said:

Bookies have Austria as favourites to win path A.  Fuckin bizarre considering they came 4th in our group and sneaked in the back door!

I’m surprised they’re even favourites for the Wales game, never mind the whole path. 

[mccaughey85]

10 minutes ago, Rich NATA said:

I think the 6 Nations finishes 10 days beforehand. Long enough to prep the pitch, I would think.

 

I don't think the WFA will move it to the Millennium, but if I was Welsh I'd be screaming for them to do so.

A fervent Millennium would be more intimidating than the Cardiff City Stadium.  

It makes sense, much more Welsh fans get to see them lose to us lol. 

[Texas Pete]

26 minutes ago, Malcolm said:

It’s a big if that we get by Ukraine but if we do, and if I was Wales, I would give us zero tickets.

That wouldn’t be allowed. 

[Texas Pete]

16 minutes ago, Rich NATA said:

I think the 6 Nations finishes 10 days beforehand. Long enough to prep the pitch, I would think.

 

I don't think the WFA will move it to the Millennium, but if I was Welsh I'd be screaming for them to do so.

A fervent Millennium would be more intimidating than the Cardiff City Stadium.  

I can’t be arsed researching it but from memory I’m pretty sure they have a much better record at Cardiff City Stadium. 

[thplinth]

Our history totally merits other sides fancying us in the playoffs. We are historical nearly men, bottlers... no point running away from it or denying it. 

Not interested in the wales / austria outcome, only have eyes for Ukraine... win that and I'd not be too bothered who we face.

Steve Clarke and the team reversed the loser pattern in the group to get to the playoffs but now we have to continue... no flash in the pan... no resting on our laurels... no patting ourselves on the back shite.

Beat Ukraine. See what happens next.

[todd]

10 minutes ago, Marky said:

I’m surprised they’re even favourites for the Wales game, never mind the whole path. 

I agree, mental, maybe the bookies know something we don't 🤔

[Toepoke]

If Austria have Sabitzer back for the play-offs they'll be a different proposition to the team we played in September. 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Toepoke

[mccaughey85]

3 minutes ago, Toepoke said:

If Austria have Sabizer back for the play-offs they'll be a different proposition to the team we played in September. 

 

They have a strong squad of players playing bundesliga and serie a, under good management they should be a match for any side outwith the top tier nations. I think ppl are underestimating them because of their poor performance in our group and the fact we beat them away through a pen. If they play to their potential then they will be very tough to beat, we battled hard to win our game over there so it's no easy game. 

[Texas Pete]

34 minutes ago, thplinth said:

Our history totally merits other sides fancying us in the playoffs. We are historical nearly men, bottlers... no point running away from it or denying it. 

Not interested in the wales / austria outcome, only have eyes for Ukraine... win that and I'd not be too bothered who we face.

Steve Clarke and the team reversed the loser pattern in the group to get to the playoffs but now we have to continue... no flash in the pan... no resting on our laurels... no patting ourselves on the back shite.

Beat Ukraine. See what happens next.

How are we historically bottlers when it comes to qualifying/playoffs? We have a decent record in playoffs and even qualifying up to 1998. 

Our recent qualifying record is atrocious obviously but that’s not the case historically. 

[Malcolm]

The World Cup is hard to qualify for now.  Back in the good old days top 2 and you were in.  Can’t remember what the story was in 85 when we had to play Australia 

[thplinth]

16 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:

How are we historically bottlers when it comes to qualifying/playoffs? We have a decent record in playoffs and even qualifying up to 1998. 

Our recent qualifying record is atrocious obviously but that’s not the case historically. 

By recent do you mean 20+ years. That is not 'recent'. Recent would be like 3 years max.

But aye ok... how many world cups did we go to in total...and we never made it out the first round. Same with the euros. 

Ireland... how did they do when they qualified. Wales... did they not reach the semi finals of the euros 'recently'.

This Scotland side under Clarke look to me like they can break the loser mold of sides of old. (that may have rhymed)

[Texas Pete]

Just now, thplinth said:

By recent do you mean 20+ years. That is not 'recent'. Recent would be like 3 years max.

But aye ok... how many world cups did we go to in total...and we never made it out the first round. Same with the euros. 

Ireland... how did they do when they qualified. Wales... did they not reach the semi finals of the euros 'recently'.

This Scotland side under Clarke look to me like they can break the loser mold of sides of old. (that may have rhymed)

Well I don’t think you can describe the last 20 years as historical but if it’s just semantics we’re talking then fair enough. We’ve been playing international football for nearly 150 years so I would say 20 years is fairly recent.

Our qualifying record in the last 3 years is pretty good though. One tournament reached out of two. Possibly two out of three depending on what happens in March. What has happened prior to that is pretty irrelevant in my opinion. If Ukraine, Wales or Austria think they will have an easy time of it because we lost to Netherlands and England in playoffs around  20 years ago then they are pretty daft. 

They will likely be relieved to be playing us because we are one of the weakest seeded teams though which is fair enough. Hopefully they will underestimate us. 

[thplinth]

Worth remembering we did go to the euros and went out in 'classic' style... the Schick 'wonder goal' essentially fucked us before we even got going...

I think we were all thinking that maybe Clarke was a mistake at that point... but somehow I think it has maybe made this side realize that they don't want to be that same butt of the joke Scottish side that we all know supporting Scotland this last XX years.

Win or lose I don't really care. For the first time in a long time I am not embarrassed by or worse ashamed of the Scotland team.

The only way to shake off the loser reputation is to win.

So in that respect I'd far prefer (beating) Austria than Wales but honestly the real test will be Ukraine. If we beat them I think we will be flying.

Edited November 26, 2021 by thplinth

[JECK]

1 minute ago, thplinth said:

Worth remembering we did go to the euros and went out in 'classic' style... the Schick 'wonder goal' essentially fucked us before we even got going...

I think we were all thinking that maybe Clarke was a mistake at that point... but somehow I think it has maybe made this side realize that they don't want to be that same butt of the joke Scottish side that we all know supporting Scotland this last XX years.

Win or lose I don't really care. For the first time in a long time I am not embarrassed by or worse ashamed of the Scotland team.

The only way to shake off the loser reputation is too win.

So in that respect I'd far prefer (beating) Austria than Wales but honestly the real test will be Ukraine. If we beat them I think we will be flying.

That’s it, imagine a swashbuckling 2007 style win and the momentum/juggernaut will be huge…man if we do it please let it be wales, part of me is dreading it but the occasion would just be epic and a win down there…wow. Wouldn’t get any better. Huge ladder to climb tho granted.