Orraloon Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, broraboy said: Exactly ! Hammer them both, well more so the Faroes as Goal Difference against the Faroe Islands counts and puts us in a better position 👍 That bit only helps us if Faroes don't finish bottom of the group. If we score too many against them that might just help that to happen. I think we should stop at 5-0 just to be on the safe side. 😉🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, Orraloon said: That bit only helps us if Faroes don't finish bottom of the group. If we score too many against them that might just help that to happen. I think we should stop at 5-0 just to be on the safe side. 😉🤣 Unless something ridiculous happens Moldova aren’t going to get 3 points to catch the Faroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: Unless something ridiculous happens Moldova aren’t going to get 3 points to catch the Faroes. Fully agree. I'd say there is just as much chance of us pipping Denmark to top spot as there is of Moldova winning any of their remaining matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Texas Pete said: Unless something ridiculous happens Moldova aren’t going to get 3 points to catch the Faroes. You mean like Scotland losing in Moldova? Aye, right enough, ridiculous things like that never happen, ever. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Orraloon said: You mean like Scotland losing in Moldova? Aye, right enough, ridiculous things like that never happen, ever. 😂 Well actually no Scotland losing in Moldova has never happened. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I'd forgotten we absolutely hammered Moldova at Hampden. How can anything possibly go wrong in the away game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Well actually no Scotland losing in Moldova has never happened. 👍 We've never won there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I'd forgotten we absolutely hammered Moldova at Hampden. How can anything possibly go wrong in the away game? I must be suffering amnesia. Pretty certain we beat Moldova at Hampden. You seem to be hinting that they were robbed and that they have hidden star players to bring in for the game against us exclusively that will get them their first win ever over us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Orraloon said: We've never won there either. But we did have the hindrance of a squad in disarray, confidence at rock bottom and Vogts under intense pressure to quit. Far different circumstances now in all departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Interesting you can still get 8/13 about us finishing second. Bookies aren't charities so it looks like far from job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: I must be suffering amnesia. Pretty certain we beat Moldova at Hampden. You seem to be hinting that they were robbed and that they have hidden star players to bring in for the game against us exclusively that will get them their first win ever over us. Also, yes, it was only 1-0, but we vastly outplayed them. The general concern after that match was our striker situation and that we aren't scoring enough. Hopefully, with scoring 3 goals against Israel, the hoodoo is off our back, and the goals will start flowing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Interesting you can still get 8/13 about us finishing second. Bookies aren't charities so it looks like far from job done. Odds on though in the bookies' eyes. 😉👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjm007 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Not much help tonight for the seeding race. Norway, Russia, Romania all winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Orraloon said: You mean like Scotland losing in Moldova? Aye, right enough, ridiculous things like that never happen, ever. 😂 If we lose in Moldova we can probably forget about reaching the playoffs so goal difference will likely count for nothing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanSpice Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Results tonight mean it's a little bit more likely that we'll need to take a point off Denmark in the last game to stand a chance of getting a seeded place. Hopefully we'll get some better results to help us out tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TartanSpice said: Results tonight mean it's a little bit more likely that we'll need to take a point off Denmark in the last game to stand a chance of getting a seeded place. Hopefully we'll get some better results to help us out tomorrow night. To be honest all I care about right now is doing enough to get second place. If we’re seeded then great but all we can do is try to win our next two games, see how things stand and then give it a real good go against Denmark and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjm007 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 A draw for Austria tomorrow would mean the Danes aren’t going for 10/10 and will care less at Hampden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 36 minutes ago, tjm007 said: A draw for Austria tomorrow would mean the Danes aren’t going for 10/10 and will care less at Hampden. If Austria get anything in Denmark I’ll be shocked. Surely we are more likely to take something off Denmark at Hampden than Austria are away from home even if they want to finish with a 100% record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Norway and Russia winning didn’t help Scotland reference seeding for Play-Offs 9 hours ago, tjm007 said: Not much help tonight for the seeding race. Norway, Russia, Romania all winning. However, Romania winning last night was exactly the result Scotland wanted over Armenia!! Group J will now have one of the lowest 2nd seeds, with Romania being that team I’d say. Romania currently on 13pts can only reach 19pts but 6pts against the 6th placed team will be deducted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, broraboy said: Norway and Russia winning didn’t help Scotland reference seeding for Play-Offs However, Romania winning last night was exactly the result Scotland wanted over Armenia!! Group J will now have one of the lowest 2nd seeds, with Romania being that team I’d say. Romania currently on 13pts can only reach 19pts but 6pts against the 6th placed team will be deducted And, if I understand it correctly, the teams getting to the play-offs through the Nations League route will not be seeded either. My maths and understanding are crud but I worked it out last night we stand seventh in seeding of the twelve potential teams. However, our next couple of games could force us further up into the top six so all is not lost. However, I am much in the mind of Texas Pete right now of lets just get second place confirmed - that is the most important thing. If we miss out on being seeded well we hang on to that Serbia away play-off which we came through last year which tells us an away tie is not curtains. Also finishing second (regardless of what follows) helps us in our bid to climb up the seeding pots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: My maths and understanding are crud but I worked it out last night we stand seventh in seeding of the twelve potential teams. However, our next couple of games could force us further up into the top six so all is not lost. However, I am much in the mind of Texas Pete right now of lets just get second place confirmed - that is the most important thing. If we miss out on being seeded well we hang on to that Serbia away play-off which we came through last year which tells us an away tie is not curtains. Also finishing second (regardless of what follows) helps us in our bid to climb up the seeding pots. 100% Scotland to focus on that 2nd spot and to secure this before the Danes come to Hampden next month! Win our next 2 games a must but if we lost our final group game to Denmark it would IMO leave us unseeded ( most likely 7th as mentioned ) Someone mentioned earlier, if Austria can scrap an away draw in Denmark tonight then they won’t be gunning for that perfect 10 wins when visiting us next Month. However, if Scotland scrap a draw against the Danes (provided we take those 6pts prior) then this would most certainly ensure a Semi-Final at Hampden…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) I would not want the runner up of the Spain group or the Croatia group so would be nice to try and get seeded. Albania v Poland is a key game tonight Austria are in almost certainly via nations league anyway , as it’s two from three of Wales/Czech Republic and Austria Edited October 12, 2021 by DAVIDB46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 13 hours ago, tjm007 said: Not much help tonight for the seeding race. Norway, Russia, Romania all winning. Not sure Norway's result will turn out to matter much. I think Turkey will finish second in that group on 15 points (21-6). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandC Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 At the moment we’re sitting 5th in the 2nd place seedings and there’s actually 3 groups that should definitely be below us if we can beat the Faroes and Moldova and confirm 2nd place so it’s looking quite positive just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, JandC said: At the moment we’re sitting 5th in the 2nd place seedings and there’s actually 3 groups that should definitely be below us if we can beat the Faroes and Moldova and confirm 2nd place so it’s looking quite positive just now. Where are you seeing that? Does it take into account the bottom placed teams results coming off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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