ProudScot Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: I would love for some other big club to buy him outright as I think Chelsea are wasting a talented player who is capable of playing for a top club at 19. Totally agree. Will be interesting to see what happens but a loan with regaular games would atleast get him confirmed in our squad & show Chelsea what they are missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 West Ham, Wolves & Villa are the 3 teams linked with Gilmour now - if he gets regular games for any of them they would all be a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: I would love for some other big club to buy him outright as I think Chelsea are wasting a talented player who is capable of playing for a top club at 19. That’s crazy, he’s only 19. Chelsea putting him out on loan will ultimately benefit Chelsea if that’s what they want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, ProudScot said: they are talking about him on sky sports transfer centre right now saying there’s a lot of teams in for him so he won’t have any shortage of options. Curious, but is it him that won't have any shortage of options or is it Chelsea not sure how loan deals work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: That’s crazy, he’s only 19. Chelsea putting him out on loan will ultimately benefit Chelsea if that’s what they want to do. How is it crazy, if man utd or man City offered big money for him and Chelsea don't want to play him and they do then it's a good move all round. I think Billy Gilmour is a wonder kid like foden or fabgregas who is easily capable of playing for a top club at 19. I think Chelsea are missing out big time by not playing this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Curious, but is it him that won't have any shortage of options or is it Chelsea not sure how loan deals work. You'd prefer him to stay put where the new manager does not rate you? Evidently, he is not part of Tuchel's plans as he has already dropped cryptic clues such as Gilmour needed to bulk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Curious, but is it him that won't have any shortage of options or is it Chelsea not sure how loan deals work. I think of all clubs, Chelsea are very familiar with how loan deals work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: You'd prefer him to stay put where the new manager does not rate you? Evidently, he is not part of Tuchel's plans as he has already dropped cryptic clues such as Gilmour needed to bulk up. I wasn't suggesting he stays put, was asking if anyone knew how much say he would have in a loan deal. ie were it was. Edited January 31, 2021 by ceudmilefailte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, ceudmilefailte said: I wasn't suggesting he stays put, was asking if anyone knew how much say he would have in a loan deal. Got you. 👍 Well I wouldn't see that they'd be standing in his way too much as they could gain much from it. If he moves to another EPL club and gets game time and impresses they get a better player back and a few million more can be asked for him than present. And since Tuchel seems to have no plans for him then I can't see Tuchel standing in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkm_vancouver Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: West Ham, Wolves & Villa are the 3 teams linked with Gilmour now - if he gets regular games for any of them they would all be a good move. Wolves would be a good move. Villa have just bought another midfielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: You'd prefer him to stay put where the new manager does not rate you? Evidently, he is not part of Tuchel's plans as he has already dropped cryptic clues such as Gilmour needed to bulk up. Sometimes this board is more jittery than the stock exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Early days folks. It's a shame that Tuchel didn't come in a bit earlier (from our point of view), he seems to have gone for tried and tested in his firstbpicks. I'd prefer Gilmour to stay and for Tuchel to see his talent rather than a rushed transfer or loan move ( unless it's back to Gers for a bit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Sometimes this board is more jittery than the stock exchange. Well lets see. Tuchel has openly said Gilmour has inadequacies and in his two matches in charge Gilmour has not featured at all and judging by the comments I do not see that changing anytime soon. So with the Euros fast approaching he needs game time NOW not in a month or twos time after being left in the void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: You'd prefer him to stay put where the new manager does not rate you? Evidently, he is not part of Tuchel's plans as he has already dropped cryptic clues such as Gilmour needed to bulk up. If Tuchel's main issue with Gilmour is his physical strength then that will surely resolve over time - he's still only 19. Darren Fletcher was built like a stick insect when he was his age but eventually filled out sufficiently. At this stage I think a loan move to another EPL or even a Championship club where he is likely to get some game time will be helpful for him though. He's not going to improve much kicking around in Chelsea's reserves. As for the Euros, unless he sees some regular first team football - somewhere - I think they'll come too soon for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, scotlad said: If Tuchel's main issue with Gilmour is his physical strength then that will surely resolve over time - he's still only 19. Darren Fletcher was built like a stick insect when he was his age but eventually filled out sufficiently. At this stage I think a loan move to another EPL or even a Championship club where he is likely to get some game time will be helpful for him though. He's not going to improve much kicking around in Chelsea's reserves. As for the Euros, unless he sees some regular first team football - somewhere - I think they'll come too soon for him. Darren Fletcher was built like a stick insect for his whole career! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I think English teams can can only have 2 domestics players on loan at any given time so that will limits Gilmours options. Im sure it runs West Ham out as they had to trigger the option to buy of a player they had on loan in order to Jesse Lingard on loan. I can see nothing getting done and for him to spend the next few months trying to impress a manager who is clearly wanting to go with experience atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 52 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Darren Fletcher was built like a stick insect for his whole career! Aye, but latterly he was more like a stick insect who went to the gym! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Loan to Southampton? https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/19053592.saints-linked-loan-move-chelsea-starlet-billy-gilmour/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, Rich NATA said: Loan to Southampton? https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/19053592.saints-linked-loan-move-chelsea-starlet-billy-gilmour/ Sadly, think that has been knocked on the head according to Sky Sports and the BBC. He is staying put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 a quick google suggests he is staying and has impressed tuchel in training. thought a loan move would have been good for him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think the change of manager might actually be good for his development, if tuchel is impressed with him but concerned about his physical attributes then maybe he will be more inclined to play him further up the pitch, i think he has been wasted playing in the def midfield role, i think we (scotland) would get a lot more out of him in the number 10 position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 hours ago, LewisEDI said: I think the change of manager might actually be good for his development, if tuchel is impressed with him but concerned about his physical attributes then maybe he will be more inclined to play him further up the pitch, i think he has been wasted playing in the def midfield role, i think we (scotland) would get a lot more out of him in the number 10 position. Agree if the manager is as astute as seems and Gilmour the player I hope then him wanting him is positive affirmation. If fit then Gilmour should be accommodated in squads building to inclusion for Euro 2020 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 If gilmour can get in the Chelsea team on a regular basis he should be in the squad, if he can’t then he shouldn’t make make the euro squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Chelsea have probably just fukked up Gilmours chances of making the euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Worst possible timing Lampard getting sacked when he did because Gilmour was a 100 percent guaranteed starter in the next game for Lampard v Wolves. If Gilmour had played that game, and played the way he usually does when given an opportunity, I think he would have nailed that spot. Sometimes it's all about timing and you need a bit of luck and unfortunately Lampards sacking came at the worst possible time for him. Tuchel comes in throws experienced guys in and now he has to start trying to impress all over again, which has probably set him back months of first team football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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