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On 11/19/2020 at 5:52 PM, ThistleWhistle said:

I'd take Wales and all - Bale and Ramsey are still decent but they're not what they were when they dragged them out of pot 4 obscurity starting over a decade ago.  Can see them being in Pot 3 soon depending on how often they can get them out in the next couple of years.    

Wales have some good youngsters like Brooks and Wilson as well as Bale and Ramsey.

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Croatia and Denmark are probably the teams from Pot 1, possibly Holland and Germany - on current form - but whoever we get in Pot 1 will be a hard slog.

Would certainly take Slovakia, Romania, Turkey, Sweden, Wales, Poland and possibly Austria. Really would like to avoid Switzerland, Serbia (they'll click and they tend to go from horror qualifying campaign to belter, and no doubt will want 6 pts from us), Ukraine have been very good under Shevchenko, and some talented youngsters coming through.

Pot 3 - would happily have taken Iceland, NI, Ireland, possibly Finland in our group. Happy to be avoiding Greece (has a 0-0 at home and 2-0 away written all over that) ; Czech Republic ; Norway ; Russia and Hungary.

Pot 4 - you could argue Bosnia, Slovenia, North Macedonia, Israel are better or on par with ourselves, Iceland and the two Irelands. There are no easy away games in any of these games. An awfae lot of hard places to go, and even Luxembourg who prop up the bottom of the seedings have improved tenfold of late.  Want to avoid Israel though - we really struggle against them and have we no played them enough of late. You'd probably fancy Bulgaria, then again they might have found a new coach, some form by the time this comes around. The old cliché but very true ''No easy games at all in this group'' and arguably its harder than half of the teams in Pot 3.

Pot 5 - Andorra, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia would chomp at the bit to have. Probably the Faroes too - who have done very well of late. Armenia would be interesting and our first game against them, but a decent enough side. Cyprus proved hard work as well last time around, so let's avoid them hopefully too. Azerbaijan and Kosovo after decent spells over the past few years, seem to be sliding a bit, but again, probably very decent and difficult away games.

Pot 6 -if lucky enough to get a six team group, Malta and Moldova are the two to avoid. Gibraltar did well in their Nations Group and they've really tightened up and improved, Ireland only beat them 1-0 over there and 2-0 in Dublin.

Dream Pot probably : Denmark, Wales, Scotland, Luxembourg, Estonia, San Marino

No Thanks : Spain, Switzerland, Scotland, Israel, Armenia, Moldova/Malta

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2 hours ago, Third Lanark said:

Wales have some good youngsters like Brooks and Wilson as well as Bale and Ramsey.

Not sure they're Real or Juve quality though?  The other thing for me is apart from Bale and Ramsey Wales seemed to have a decent enough player in each position predominantly in the Premiership.  

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On 11/20/2020 at 8:32 AM, Bristolhibby said:

I think you are right. Even worse a draw. Looking at the group standings again. Wales were rank and finished below us! Just took 6 points off of us. Crazy! Even Macedonia beat them. Looking back, that group was even worse than the Euro 2008 group of death. At least we had a good team in 2006/2007.

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Starting that group with Levein still in charge was the problem, messed up the home games v Serbia and Macedonia right at the start which killed qualification right there.

Results after under Strachan were o.k, brilliant double over Croatia and also won in Macedonia which isn't easy. Pretty sure also comfortably leading 1-0 v Wales at Hampden until Snoddy conceded a pen and also got sent off which completely flipped that result.

From memory a few were actually pleased with that draw given there was no big hitter (Belgium hadn't qualified for a major tournament for about a decade at that point) and it was expected everyone would take points off each other but the reality is that was the point where it started clicking for Belgium and Croatia are always tough to finish above in qualifying (went out in groups at World cup though so they were in transition a bit).

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8 minutes ago, davy-hay said:

 

 

Previously i've found the draws on via the red button on freeview.   (was in a travel lodge one time in the morning with a hangover :-0  )

Nobody gives a flying fuck what you've previously done with your shitey life.

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