Orraloon Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, romanticscot said: I'm away to look for this but does anyone know the tie-breaker rules? If Norway and Austria draw, and we win - we would both be on 4W 1D 1L and on 13 points, and very likely on +3 for GD Aye, GD then goals scored. So it would be good for us to win by a couple of goals, just in case. Do Norway have a team for this game? Their last one got cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Aye, GD then goals scored. So it would be good for us to win by a couple of goals, just in case. Do Norway have a team for this game? Their last one got cancelled. I am trying to find confirmation of this and can't find anything, I hope it does for our footballing sake, but I understand the concern and fear with Covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/norway-b-team-to-face-austria-nations-league-coronavirus-b71214.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Typical Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 This thread is officially redundant and no need for it to be on this message board 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Norway did us a favour too. What a wasted chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Toepoke said: If the World Cup increases to 48 teams as rumoured from 2026 it would boost our chances. (Although it would ruin the tournament IMO). It's happening but don't think europe will actually get that many more places, maybe up to about 15. Expansion will have more teams from Africa and Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Tartan Chris said: It's happening but don't think europe will actually get that many more places, maybe up to about 15. Expansion will have more teams from Africa and Asia. 16 for Europe. So, only 3 more places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: 16 for Europe. So, only 3 more places. With the greatest respect, if you take out san Marino, Gibraltar etc, that leaves about 48 countries vying for 16 places. Surely Scotland can be in the running most years for one of those 16 places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, Burj_Alba said: With the greatest respect, if you take out san Marino, Gibraltar etc, that leaves about 48 countries vying for 16 places. Surely Scotland can be in the running most years for one of those 16 places. We are currently ranked about 25th -ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Orraloon said: We are currently ranked about 25th -ish. So in striking distance of those 16 places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Orraloon said: 16 for Europe. So, only 3 more places. Interesting to see format with nations league. Without it it would be 10 group winners through and 5 through in play offs. Best 2nd placed team also qualifies like good old days in 98 qualifying so best 3rd placed team gets put in play offs in their place. Not sure what they'll come up with for play off system with nations league. Edit: Or even more simple, best two 2nd place teams go through automatically and remaining 8 go into play offs! Was trying to remember what the actual format was for France 98, think it was two best runners up but can't remember the other nation. Edited November 19, 2020 by Tartan Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Very hard for us to qualify for the world Cup, once it goes to 16 places for Europe we might have a chance but its still a big ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Tartan Chris said: Interesting to see format with nations league. Without it it would be 10 group winners through and 5 through in play offs. Best 2nd placed team also qualifies like good old days in 98 qualifying so best 3rd placed team gets put in play offs in their place. Not sure what they'll come up with for play off system with nations league. I think it will be pretty similar to 2022. Next year the 10 runners up join with 2 Nations League group winners into two rounds of play-offs for the final 3 World Cup spots. For 2026 they could do the exact same but only have one round of play-offs to decide the final 6 teams to qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: I think it will be pretty similar to 2022. Next year the 10 runners up join with 2 Nations League group winners into two rounds of play-offs for the final 3 World Cup spots. For 2026 they could do the exact same but only have one round of play-offs to decide the final 6 teams to qualify. Or, they might go for 8 groups, top two qualify? There are loads of permutations they could go for. I think they will come up with something which keeps the Nations League playoff spots alive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Or, they might go for 8 groups, top two qualify? There are loads of permutations they could go for. I think they will come up with something which keeps the Nations League playoff spots alive though. That'd see a return to 7 team groups, memories of the marathon Euro2008 campaign. Can't see that happening without the Nations League being binned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Toepoke said: That'd see a return to 7 team groups, memories of the marathon Euro2008 campaign. Can't see that happening without the Nations League being binned. Aye, I think you are right and they would want to have some sort of playoff format as that adds an extra bit of interest to the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: That'd see a return to 7 team groups, memories of the marathon Euro2008 campaign. Can't see that happening without the Nations League being binned. Think they will definitely keep the playoffs one way or another. Big money earner for them and more teams involved. might be able to make the draw more favorable if one of the "big teams" don't qualify automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy-hay Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 2:30 PM, Toepoke said: That'd see a return to 7 team groups, memories of the marathon Euro2008 campaign. Can't see that happening without the Nations League being binned. we certainly don't want the nations league to be binned. Looking forward to that in for Euro2024. Anyone know when the next draw for the nations league is? Will pop in my calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/20/2020 at 2:30 PM, Toepoke said: That'd see a return to 7 team groups, memories of the marathon Euro2008 campaign. Can't see that happening without the Nations League being binned. Would love to see 31 groups of seven teams from a worldwide mix to get rid of the uneven playing field that is designed to ensure a spread of world wide teams in the finals. Added bonus of some very tasty away trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Would love to see 31 groups of seven teams from a worldwide mix to get rid of the uneven playing field that is designed to ensure a spread of world wide teams in the finals. Added bonus of some very tasty away trips. Tbh I think I'd prefer that to the 3 team group nonsense they've got planned for 2026. 64 team finals with a straight knock-out from the off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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