Bino's Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Your point? My point is people on here are renowned for having scapegoats. FFS people wanted Clarke out six weeks or so ago. Galagher, O'Donnell were pilloried as not good enough by people on here as were others who have dug in with good performances for us. And it goes back further than just recent times. McCallister, Iwelumo etc etc etc. My point is your saying folk are scapegoating But this is a guy who just missed vital chances in a game we should never have lost and could, likely will have, just lost us play off chance at a world cup! Criticising him for those missed chances is hardly scapegoating, it's just pointing out that it was an awful performance which is going to cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: I'm baffled by that. Realy? They just beat Slovakia 3-2 last month away ; were pretty even-steven against us, if not slightly better in the semi final. They are very rarely scudded by anyone either. They will give us a tough game on Wednesday without a shadow of a doubt. I've only seen them in their games against us and they've been honking each time imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: I'm baffled by that. Realy? They just beat Slovakia 3-2 last month away ; were pretty even-steven against us, if not slightly better in the semi final. They are very rarely scudded by anyone either. They will give us a tough game on Wednesday without a shadow of a doubt. Agreed. They play to a system that they are comfortable with that makes them tough to break down. Czechs are going to the Euros next summer and they are only beating Israel narrowly at the moment too plus Israel beat Slovakia (Euros-bound) last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marky said: No no no. I said, go to Irnbruman’s profile if you want some fine examples. Are you sure you’ve read the rest of this thread if you’re saying there were no others? If you haven’t then why comment on my post in the first place. Go find them for yourself. Of course I know plenty have defended him. When did I say that wasn’t the case. In fact I even said irnbruman calling his defenders tossers and zoomers. You’re not being pedantic. You’re just being either wrong or lazy in not reading the whole thread. I have read it and I don't see anything (other than poss Irnbruman) that could be remotely construed as abusive towards the guy. You seem to be intent on giving yourself some sort of moral high ground here when there's nothing much to see here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmondo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, Bino's said: We will definitely need to beat Israel to give us a chance And rely on some other results Glancing and I think For us to stay in top 2 best rank--- We must beat Israel Wales must lose last game Finland must lose last game Want Austria to lose tonight in Belfast Norway v Romania covid cancelled wanted Vikings to lose that. So clutching at straws Today has fucked us It's not as bad as you seem to think. We don't need everything to go our way. It looks highly likely we will need either Austria or Wales (just one of them) to finish in the top 2 of their world cup qualifying group. Without seeing the groups I'd still guess the odds are in our favour for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marky said: Is that supposed to be an intelligent response? It was all yours deserved A striker missing guilt edged chances doesn't have.... I can't even be bothered finishing the sentence It's football It's about scoring goals Ever heard the phrase you're as good as your strikers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, Bino's said: Israel have proven to be an absolutely honking side Who we failed to beat twice over 90 minutes and who came back from 2-0 down to beat Slovakia? They have been getting some decent results even if they are a honking side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bino's said: I've only seen them in their games against us and they've been honking each time imo Fair dues, and each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 7 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Can't believe he's giving mcburnie this game, he's seriously terrible. 7 hours ago, Malcolm said: Mcburnie has been brutal for us so far.... I struggle to reconcile this with his £20m price tag. I keep hoping he suddenly evolves in to a £20m striker. my biggest issue with him is he looks like a lazy disinterested fecker. 7 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Being a useless cunt is what he specialises in. 6 hours ago, ProudScot said: If McBurnie was a dog you’d be thinking about taking him to the vets to get him put out of his misery 6 hours ago, Pocketrocketman1888 said: mcburnie is so utter shite 6 hours ago, irnbruman said: Are you trying to tell me he is a decent player. Fuck off McBurnie is pure mince. Fucking disgrace of a player. 6 hours ago, loanhead-tartan said: We’ve played no bad their goal aside . Mcburnie needs to be burying those chances though , if he fell in a barrel of tits he’d come out sucking his thumb 6 hours ago, irnbruman said: How the fuck did McBurnie ever become a professional player? I dont think Ive ever seen a worse player. Just a small selection for you Slasher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bino's said: It was all yours deserved A striker missing guilt edged chances doesn't have.... I can't even be bothered finishing the sentence It's football It's about scoring goals Ever heard the phrase you're as good as your strikers No I’ve never heard that phrase. Would it be similar to you’re as good as your defenders or any other phrase you might have just made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marky said: Just a small selection for you Slasher. If saying a player is shite is being abusive there's not one football fan not guilty, including you. We're not going to agree so I'm calling it a night 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marky said: Just a small selection for you Slasher. Why dont you go and tell teacher ya anal sadsack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, slasher said: If saying a player is shite is being abusive there's not one football fan not guilty, including you. We're not going to agree so I'm calling it a night 👍 What about calling him a cunt. Did you just conveniently ignore that one. But you’re right. We’re not going to agree. So happy to leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 58 minutes ago, Marky said: Boy has anger management problems. 2 minutes ago, irnbruman said: Why dont you go and tell teacher ya anal sadsack. 🤣😂 He writes all his own stuff you know! Grow up or sober up. Or probably both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Well, that feel-good factor lasted a whole two days... Get things into perspective: We made 8 changes and we still managed to outplay a team who are 37th in the world. We created around 5 or 6 really good chances. From open play. We had 10 shots inside the box. When is the last time that happened? We played some really good stuff. I really don't get why anyone can find the negative in all that. Fine, we lost, but It's about the big picture. Yes, McBurnie missed about 3 chances to score, but there's no point getting on his back. We should be supporting him, not berating him. His confidence is down. He isn't a goal scorer. A look at his under 21 goal ratio will tell you that. We can't just blame him for losing. Their keeper made a great save from McLean and Griffiths. Their keeper got motm. There's a reason for that. For me, this was a worthwhile exercise and I'm taking the positives out of it. As will Steve Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loanhead-tartan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I’d love nothing more than mcburnie to start banging them in for Scotland and prove myself and a lot of others wrong . But the 15/16 caps and 2 and a half years he’s been in the fold he hasn’t done anything to prove he’s belongs at this level . Folk can continue to blow smoke up his arse as long they want but the fact is he isn’t good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Not sure about that - they have Zahravi who scores for fun and has destroyed us before. Plus Dabbur and Solomon play at a high level. Dabbur's not playing tonight and not in their squad. Czechs winning so looks like win will be needed in Israel r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Israel have had a player sent off. Hatem Abd Elhamed will miss the match against us. Edited November 15, 2020 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmondo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Northern Ireland beating Austria. That could offset oyr result today in terms of the play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loanhead-tartan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I’m confident we’ll get the win on Wednesday, boys know what needs to be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, dezmondo said: Northern Ireland beating Austria. That could offset oyr result today in terms of the play off. 1-1 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, dezmondo said: Northern Ireland beating Austria. That could offset oyr result today in terms of the play off. Austria have equalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, loanhead-tartan said: I’d love nothing more than mcburnie to start banging them in for Scotland and prove myself and a lot of others wrong . But the 15/16 caps and 2 and a half years he’s been in the fold he hasn’t done anything to prove he’s belongs at this level . Folk can continue to blow smoke up his arse as long they want but the fact is he isn’t good I haven’t seen anyone blowing smoke up his arse. I’ve just seen plenty of people criticising him in a totally acceptable way (like you just did above) and plenty others going way over the top in their criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 man Israel have been having a right good go at the Czechs in the last 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2-1 Austria now. Would've loved Northern Ireland as potential pot 2 team, will be tough for them over next few years given many of their key players are well into their 30s and they don't have much coming through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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