aaid Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 10:51 PM, ProudScot said: Seems weird only British countries don’t utilise the rule. Even major nations use it. Also gentleman’s agreements mean hee haw. I’m glad Clarke asked Tavernier, shows he has some ballsacks. Also Tav is a Mayfair esque upgrade on the Old Kent Road that is Stephen O’Donnell. There's nothing to stop Scotland - or any other home nation - calling someone who was born abroad but who has achieved UK nationality through residency if they have no ties to any of the other "home" nations. Sergei Baltacha jr played for the U21s despite being born in Kiev. The "schooling" aspect only applies to players who were born in another part of the UK or have a tie to one and was introduced to address a discrepancy whereby someone born in say Canada to Canadian parents could move to the USA as a child, gain citizenship through naturalisation and play for the USA whereas someone who born in England to English parents but who moved to Scotland at the same age could only play for England. Tavernier is not eligible to play for Scotland, Clarke should know this and should never have asked him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, aaid said: There's nothing to stop Scotland - or any other home nation - calling someone who was born abroad but who has achieved UK nationality through residency if they have no ties to any of the other "home" nations. Sergei Baltacha jr played for the U21s despite being born in Kiev. The "schooling" aspect only applies to players who were born in another part of the UK or have a tie to one and was introduced to address a discrepancy whereby someone born in say Canada to Canadian parents could move to the USA as a child, gain citizenship through naturalisation and play for the USA whereas someone who born in England to English parents but who moved to Scotland at the same age could only play for England. Tavernier is not eligible to play for Scotland, Clarke should know this and should never have asked him. Yeah I’m sure Bruce Grobbelaar was interested in playing for us at one point. Was a non-starter I think as he had already played for Rhodesia/Zimbabwe but if he’d been born in England, Wales or NI there would have been absolutely no chance whether he’d have played for another country or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Why is this guy always chosen ahead of Nathan Patterson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: Why is this guy always chosen ahead of Nathan Patterson? 19 goals last season - for a full back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, aaid said: 19 goals last season - for a full back. Probably as many assists too and he is the motivational captain behind a team that can't win cups. Edited November 21, 2021 by ceudmilefailte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 9:18 PM, Barney Rubble said: Why is this guy always chosen ahead of Nathan Patterson? Probably because he is a better footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 17 hours ago, Malcolm said: Probably because he is a better footballer. Why is he even getting mentioned on a tartan army board.He's english.Now,f..king stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, thesaint said: Why is he even getting mentioned on a tartan army board.He's english.Now,f..king stop it. Cos someone asked the valid question as to why Nathan Patterson isn’t getting a game. Simple answer is he’s not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 ….. bit sharp. He’s probably not consistently better than Tavernier just now, but at this stage does look like he could kick on and be a better player. scared short term manager therefore doesn’t play him….. fwd thinking longer term manager with a pair does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Cos someone asked the valid question as to why Nathan Patterson isn’t getting a game. Simple answer is he’s not good enough. One thing I can guarantee. Patterson has already got more international caps than Tavernier will ever get. 😉👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 12 hours ago, Malcolm said: Cos someone asked the valid question as to why Nathan Patterson isn’t getting a game. Simple answer is he’s not good enough. He’s definitely good enough to get a game for Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, ProudScot said: He’s definitely good enough to get a game for Rangers. Not ahead of tavanier at the moment. No doubt his time will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Malcolm said: Not ahead of tavanier at the moment. No doubt his time will come. If Tavernier keeps playing like he’s got his boots on the wrong feet Patterson will soon oust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Texas Pete said: If Tavernier keeps playing like he’s got his boots on the wrong feet Patterson will soon oust him. Might be his time now depending on gvbs view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 21 hours ago, Texas Pete said: If Tavernier keeps playing like he’s got his boots on the wrong feet Patterson will soon oust him. I reckon it will be Tav tonight but as you say if he keeps performing as poorly defensively then he will be out regardless of his assists and goals. A lot of Tav's assists come from set pieces so it massively inflates what people see as his contribution as an attacking fullback. Set pieces are important and he (and Turnbull) probably have the best delivery in the league. So I'm not trying to downplay Tav. It's just If you put Patterson at RB and Tav at RW or CM Tav's numbers probably wouldn't change much, but you'd add the more dynamic and powerful running of Patterson to the right hand side. Hopefully Gio can find a solution. Gerrard claimed he would but never tried and then stopped even giving Patterson a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 17 hours ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: I reckon it will be Tav tonight but as you say if he keeps performing as poorly defensively then he will be out regardless of his assists and goals. A lot of Tav's assists come from set pieces so it massively inflates what people see as his contribution as an attacking fullback. Set pieces are important and he (and Turnbull) probably have the best delivery in the league. So I'm not trying to downplay Tav. It's just If you put Patterson at RB and Tav at RW or CM Tav's numbers probably wouldn't change much, but you'd add the more dynamic and powerful running of Patterson to the right hand side. Hopefully Gio can find a solution. Gerrard claimed he would but never tried and then stopped even giving Patterson a chance. Patterson got 20 min or so at right midfield against Sparta and did well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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