vanderark14 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Diamond Scot said: Its likely that he will. This summer would have been the ideal time to sell Tavenier. His stock will never be higher and Patterson is his replacement. Thats the model of a good well run club though. After watching some of Patterson yesterday I'd be quite annoyed if Clarke never called him up. RB/RWB is an area we need to improve and Patterson has earned the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: After watching some of Patterson yesterday I'd be quite annoyed if Clarke never called him up. RB/RWB is an area we need to improve and Patterson has earned the right. Id call him up as backup. At worst he is a similar standard to Palmer but has potential to grow into the best rb we have. My only concern with calling him up is that I cant see him getting much game time once Tav returns. You could then have a situation when you either need to keep him in the squad despite not playing for his club or drop him which may do him some harm. Once a young player breaks through he needs to keep playing. Theres no point him playing 2nd fiddle to Tav next season. From a business sence Rangers could sell Tav for 8 - 10 million at the end of the year. Clubs like Newcastle etc wouldnt think twice about splashing that amount for a defender with his numbers. Even if its 5 million with 5 million more based on appearences, assists, goals etc Patterson then comes in, theres no drop in 1st team quality and in a cpl of years Patterson might be worth the same. The way Rangers will do it is keep hold of Tav until he has very little resale value and Pattersons window of learning is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If we're going to call up a player instead of Liam Palmer, it should be Josh Doig. He's a regular with Hibs, and unless a team buys him in the summer, he'll be a regular next season. Can he play right back? Yep. He's two footed... for people who have a foot fetish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: Id call him up as backup. At worst he is a similar standard to Palmer but has potential to grow into the best rb we have. My only concern with calling him up is that I cant see him getting much game time once Tav returns. You could then have a situation when you either need to keep him in the squad despite not playing for his club or drop him which may do him some harm. Once a young player breaks through he needs to keep playing. Theres no point him playing 2nd fiddle to Tav next season. From a business sence Rangers could sell Tav for 8 - 10 million at the end of the year. Clubs like Newcastle etc wouldnt think twice about splashing that amount for a defender with his numbers. Even if its 5 million with 5 million more based on appearences, assists, goals etc Patterson then comes in, theres no drop in 1st team quality and in a cpl of years Patterson might be worth the same. The way Rangers will do it is keep hold of Tav until he has very little resale value and Pattersons window of learning is lost. From a business point of view, they should sell Tavernier and reinvest in the squad. It's not often you have a ready made replacement of Patterson's ability to call on. I'm converted. I was one of the ones that thought a call up was premature, but he was one of the best players on the park against a team of internationals yesterday. I'm not saying he should start, but Palmer is in a team at the bottom of the championship and unlikely to play ahead of O'Donnell anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: From a business point of view, they should sell Tavernier and reinvest in the squad. It's not often you have a ready made replacement of Patterson's ability to call on. I'm converted. I was one of the ones that thought a call up was premature, but he was one of the best players on the park against a team of internationals yesterday. I'm not saying he should start, but Palmer is in a team at the bottom of the championship and unlikely to play ahead of O'Donnell anyway. Was Patterson that good? I didn't watch it. I was watching the Manchester United match. Talking of, it's crazy how opinions can differ, isn't it? Some United fans were calling it his worst performance in a United shirt... I thought that it was one of his best. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 This thread is somewhat reminiscent of the Iraqi general denying the Americans were anywhere near Baghdad. Give it up, football is in total meltdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Was Patterson that good? I didn't watch it. I was watching the Manchester United match. Talking of, it's crazy how opinions can differ, isn't it? Some United fans were calling it his worst performance in a United shirt... I thought that it was one of his best. lol First half especially, yes. Quite Allan Hutton-esque. Not afraid to put in hard tackles and impressive marauding runs. Only 19! I mainly watched the game to have a look at him. He was part of the reason Uruguayan International, Laxalt, was subbed at half time. Turnbull's crossing/passing is honestly elite level. Put him in any top team and he'll end up with 15+ assists a season. He's that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: First half especially, yes. Quite Allan Hutton-esque. Not afraid to put in hard tackles and impressive marauding runs. Only 19! I mainly watched the game to have a look at him. He was part of the reason Uruguayan International, Laxalt, was subbed at half time. Turnbull's crossing/passing is honestly elite level. Put him in any top team and he'll end up with 15+ assists a season. He's that good. Oh really? In that case, I hope both are included in the Euro squad. My only concern is that Patterson won't play many league matches next season. I sence another Gilmour situation. Hopefully Celtic appoint a top manager, in that case. Someone who can improve Turnbull. Saying that, they'll probably bring in Jim Leishman.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: This thread is somewhat reminiscent of the Iraqi general denying the Americans were anywhere near Baghdad. Give it up, football is in total meltdown. Comical Ali? Comically Ally will be our version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Oh really? In that case, I hope both are included in the Euro squad. My only concern is that Patterson won't play many league matches next season. I sence another Gilmour situation. Hopefully Celtic appoint a top manager, in that case. Someone who can improve Turnbull. Saying that, they'll probably bring in Jim Leishman.. After seeing the last squad list, I am not going to hold my breath on seeing new call-ups. Which I partially understand, but the 2 of them should absolutely be in the WC qualifier squads this year at yhe very least. Fingers crossed Rangers sell Tavernier in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I hope Clarke isn’t going to be stubborn about calling up players everyone is shouting about, in a Levein-esque ‘I know better than you’ sort of way. Patterson should definitely be in for the Euros ahead of Palmer who may well be in league 1 next season. It’s difficult for Clarke to drop Palmer now after he’s been in all the recent squads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 hours ago, The Black Bra said: I hope Clarke isn’t going to be stubborn about calling up players everyone is shouting about, in a Levein-esque ‘I know better than you’ sort of way. Patterson should definitely be in for the Euros ahead of Palmer who may well be in league 1 next season. It’s difficult for Clarke to drop Palmer now after he’s been in all the recent squads. I don’t think the Euros will happen. Lawyers will block it for some reason connected with the Super League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If anyone gives a fuck Gilmour is on the bench yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, ProudScot said: If anyone gives a fuck Gilmour is on the bench yet again Aye and Tuchel is now opting for Mount in central midfield with Jorginho. So that makes him what fifth choice midfielder now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Lyndon Dykes with a last minute possible winner for QPR. Big man is on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabtheBruce Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Dykes scores again for QPR to put them one up in the 90th minute against Swansea. The big man’s on fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabtheBruce Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Evidently we both love our cliches (deserved one, though) 😆🔥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Burj_Alba said: Lyndon Dykes with a last minute possible winner for QPR. Big man is on fire. Fantastic. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, RabtheBruce said: Evidently we both love our cliches (deserved one, though) 😆🔥 Absolutely, we stand shoulder to shoulder 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, SWMM82 said: Aye and Tuchel is now opting for Mount in central midfield with Jorginho. So that makes him what fifth choice midfielder now? That is shocking from Tuchel. He claimed Gilmour was 4th choice Midfielder but clearly not. Gilmour needs to get some balls and be banging his door in the morning, I'm pissed off at such blatant bullshit from Tuchel god knows how Gilmour must feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Dykes scored again . 5 in last 5 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, bazmidd said: That is shocking from Tuchel. He claimed Gilmour was 4th choice Midfielder but clearly not. Gilmour needs to get some balls and be banging his door in the morning, I'm pissed off at such blatant bullshit from Tuchel god knows how Gilmour must feel I feel like he could demand a transfer in the summer. Told not to go out on loan and then barely makes a match day squad. Tuchel putting 2 keepers on the bench than having him on the bench in champions League games. I'd feel completely slapped in the face and disrespected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Tuchel has done a brilliant job at Chelsea. It’s not his worry if gilmour is ready for Scotland games. He’s not good enough for Chelsea at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Malcolm said: Tuchel has done a brilliant job at Chelsea. It’s not his worry if gilmour is ready for Scotland games. He’s not good enough for Chelsea at the moment. You can separate some of that though. Yes Tuchel has done a brilliant job at Chelsea on the whole, but that does not mean he has been perfect, he isn't exempt from criticism as this situation proves he hasn't got everything right. He is a manager, and he hasn't managed this situation brilliantly Whether this was Gilmour or anyone else in the squad it is clear as day that situation has not been managed well. And I completely disagree that he is not good enough for Chelsea as he has already proved he can play in that team every single time he has been given a chance in the past, the problem right now is he is not being given that chance by Tuchel. ETA Chelsea played out a drab draw and probably should have been beaten last night and Gilmour was still left kicking his heels on the bench. He just needs a chance Edited April 21, 2021 by bazmidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 4/19/2021 at 2:42 PM, Tartan blood said: From a business point of view, they should sell Tavernier and reinvest in the squad. It's not often you have a ready made replacement of Patterson's ability to call on. I'm converted. I was one of the ones that thought a call up was premature, but he was one of the best players on the park against a team of internationals yesterday. I'm not saying he should start, but Palmer is in a team at the bottom of the championship and unlikely to play ahead of O'Donnell anyway. Patterson has a greater transfer value than Tavernier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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