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3 hours ago, Malcolm said:

To be fair, I don’t think that our recent improvement in results is necessarily entirely down to a 3 in the back formation.  I’m not sure you will be able to prove causality here!

Yes, we won.  Yes our second half performance was decent.  on the downside it was often fairly turgid footbal.  We managed one shot on target in two games.
 

I’m happy to go with the plan which seems to be make us tough to beat and take it from there. Let’s see what happens going forward.

 

 

It's definitely because of the 3. More numbers = less gaps.

Are people forgetting about losing 3-0 to Kazakhstan, over a year ago? Kazakhstan scored 4 against us in 2 matches. How about beating failing to keep a clean sheet against Cyprus twice? Losing 13 goals in 4 matches?

We weren't exactly solid with a four.

In our previous two matches we're conceded zero chances.

Our football will improve.

 

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(If you're going to reply, please keep it positive, respectful and adult. Abusive and disrespectful comments will be ignored. There are tons of threads here to moan and whinge like an entitled troglod

Prick

Got to admit, I think it's funny how much Taylor winds everyone up. It's also obvious he knows his football and can put a good argument forward to back up his opinions.  Give me that anyway ahead

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2 hours ago, Rolling hIlls said:

You have to play with the hand you are dealt.  Souness, Dalglish, Jordan won feck all either for Scotland.  Heartbreak hotel with the odd win.  But certainly I trust Clarke in setting up a team formation.  Even if we get beat I would still keep him for at least he decides to pack in.  And get Strachan back to help.  Should have kept with him IMO.  But things are what they are.  Both guys are football and Scotland men through and through.  Positivity 👍

Yep.

But Clarke has definitely stumbled onto something. I mean, not conceded a chance for 2 matches?! That never really happens unless we play San Marino or the Faroe Islands.

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1 minute ago, Taylor1996 said:

Yep.

But Clarke has definitely stumbled onto something. I mean, not conceded a chance for 2 matches?! That never really happens unless we play San Marino or the Faroe Islands.

Always preferred a 4-4-2 myself but see where you are coming from.  If footballers are trained and good enough they can play in any 'system'.  Same as McTominay or Robertson in different positions.  You play your best team and best players.  Not the best system IMO.  Grew up when the Largs Mafia (where are they now?) were telling us to play zonal marking!!  A load of pish but that is what kids in Scotland were getting taught.

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1 minute ago, Rolling hIlls said:

Always preferred a 4-4-2 myself but see where you are coming from.  If footballers are trained and good enough they can play in any 'system'.  Same as McTominay or Robertson in different positions.  You play your best team and best players.  Not the best system IMO.  Grew up when the Largs Mafia (where are they now?) were telling us to play zonal marking!!  A load of pish but that is what kids in Scotland were getting taught.

Agreed.

McTominay played as a striker for Manchester United u18s.

That's yet another thing that I was mocked about. My insistence that players can adapt to other positions. Should've seen the reaction when I said that Tierney playing in a back three. Chimps tea-party, comes to mind.

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2 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said:

Agreed.

McTominay played as a striker for Manchester United u18s.

That's yet another thing that I was mocked about. My insistence that players can adapt to other positions. Should've seen the reaction when I said that Tierney playing in a back three. Chimps tea-party, comes to mind.

It had already happened before you suggested it. I understand your need to justify your comments in response to some over the top tirades against you, but in balance, does every one of your posts need to be about you? It’s so draining. 

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I was looking over our historical results, and we had a 7 game unbeaten spell that ended in 2017, but to go back to a spell of unbeaten in 7 which had no friendlies, we have to go back to a run in 96/97 which began with our win over Switzerland at EURO 96 and ended with a 2-0 win against Austria at France 98 qualification.  We had another 7 game spell earlier in the 90's - March 95 to September 95 to be exact.  We had two 9 game unbeaten spells in the 70's, we are grinding out important results.

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6 minutes ago, romanticscot said:

I was looking over our historical results, and we had a 7 game unbeaten spell that ended in 2017, but to go back to a spell of unbeaten in 7 which had no friendlies, we have to go back to a run in 96/97 which began with our win over Switzerland at EURO 96 and ended with a 2-0 win against Austria at France 98 qualification.  We had another 7 game spell earlier in the 90's - March 95 to September 95 to be exact.  We had two 9 game unbeaten spells in the 70's, we are grinding out important results.

How did our unbeaten run end with a win against Austria?!? 🤷🏻‍♂️
Do you mean we lost our next game?

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Just now, romanticscot said:

Yes we lost the next game, it included the final win, that would have been a better way to say that.  

Got you now 👍🏼
My first away game (well, overseas) was the Sweden game in the Ullevi, that must be the game you refer to as we only lost one game that campaign. 

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8 hours ago, Taylor1996 said:

The shit that I received, for x amount of time, I have every right.

Funny. I don't see anyone mocking my obsession over a three at the back system now. Turns out, yes, "I WAS right all along".

Whether we beat Serbia or not is immaterial. As I said, all along, it's about the big picture and it's about the process.

:lol:  I don't know why you didn't just call the thread "I WAS right all along", and spare us the pretence it was about anything else!

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4 hours ago, romanticscot said:

So here's a question, if we defend better, can we afford have a player like a Kris Boyd or a peak Jordan Rhodes?  

I'm not sure we have anyone like that. Nevertheless, I don't think so. We aren't good enough to carry played that don't work hard. 

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On 10/13/2020 at 1:18 AM, Taylor1996 said:

It is.

I've never claimed otherwise that I would've wished anything for Scotland to play with a three. Yes, even defeat.

Same as i'd wish anything for Scotland to be independent.

You’re on record saying the playoffs didn’t matter and now you’re on here after we win the semi final claiming others are negative. You’ve some brass neck on you. 

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15 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said:

You’re on record saying the playoffs didn’t matter and now you’re on here after we win the semi final claiming others are negative. You’ve some brass neck on you. 

I am on record saying that I'm not interested in the playoffs... WHEN it looked like we were stuck to the idea of playing with a four. And that being the case, we would have had 0% chance.

That being the case, I was disinterested. 

Now we're playing with a three, the momentum is growing, looking more solid, keeping shape better, there's a chance of qualifying for 2020.

We're building.

 

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1 minute ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Clarke doing exactly as he did with killie.

Make us incredibly hard to beat, get momentum then be more offensive. 

First season at killie he did this tbf second season we played some fantastic stuff. 

Just about to say the same thing 👍

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Just looked this up (because I'm a really sad bastard) Steve Clarke has given a lot of players their Scotland debut in the time he has been in charge so far:

Brophy vs. Cyprus (h)

Taylor vs. Belgium (a)

Cooper vs. Russia (h)

Devlin vs. Russia (a)

Fleck vs. Russia (a)

Shankland vs. Russia (a)

Findlay vs. San Marino (h)

Gallagher vs. Cyprus (a)

Dykes vs. Israel (h)

Considine vs. Czech Republic (h)

Hanlon vs. Slovakia (h)

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