Super_Scotlandfan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Positives are that we won, we still have a chance of topping our Nations League group. Other positive is that Clarke will understand his squad and it’s limitations a bit more. In terms of today. Marshall did his job. Couple of saves you’d expect him to make. Palmer was terrible. An assist doesn’t make up for that. McTominay isn’t able to play centre back at the moment. McKenna stands out against poor strikers, but is found out by half decent ones. Cooper probably deserves another chance. Robertson played better today. We need him on the pitch on the left wing. McLean was poor, wasn’t quick enough with his passing and didn’t provide much defensive cover. Armstrong played as bad as I’ve seen him. Normally can drive forward but looked awful technically. Fleck looked ok in patches. Probably deserves a start against Israel if he starts the season well. Christie was unbelievably wasteful. Had a couple of opportunities to play in a team mate but chose the wrong option. Dykes looks like a forward we can use. Good strikers goal. Is strong are relatively fast. Close control isn’t great. For me we need Ryan Fraser. He’s genuine quality in the final third. Him playing left winger will really help. I think we should go back to 433. It allows Fraser and Robertson in their best position. McGinn needs to start too. He knows how to score for us and works so hard to win fouls and play as far up the pitch as possible. I think we should go back to basics and play; Marshall Robertson Cooper McKenna (reluctantly) Tierney (as right back) McGregor McTominay/Fleck McGinn Christie Fraser Dykes I’d be slightly tempted to drop Christie for Forrest for some natural width on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Against a Czech D team? Our main players can barely beat Cyprus, San Marino and Czech D. What are we hanging on to? 6 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Yes. About a year ago they went head to head against Germany, best them, and deserved it. Finishing top of their Europ qualification group. The performance schools are working. We have kids at Man City, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, and perhaps Bologna next. You clearly know nothing about football. The u19s would be pumped by our senior team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Against a Czech D team? Our main players can barely beat Cyprus, San Marino and Czech D. What are we hanging on to? A Czech d team would beat our u19s comfortably, do you think they would win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Malcolm said: You clearly know nothing about football. The u19s would be pumped by our senior team. Our senior team wouldn't be able to pump anyone. This was a Czech league select team, and our players looked like amateurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: A Czech d team would beat our u19s comfortably, do you think they would win? No. Our u19 team would beat Czech D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Taylor1996 said: Our senior team wouldn't be able to pump anyone. This was a Czech league select team, and our players looked like amateurs. I’m pretty sure if tynecastle boys club Put out their under 13s our national team might win..... honestly that is no argument. The under 19s would be brushed aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Taylor1996 said: No. Our u19 team would beat Czech D. Its ridiculous that you think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Malcolm said: I’m pretty sure if tynecastle boys club Put out their under 13s our national team might win..... honestly that is no argument. The under 19s would be brushed aside. I don't know. Our national team would probably win, but it would be a struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Do we, though? Watch the u17 and u19 teams and tell me if our seniors are better than them. I'm afraid, we have about 3 more years of this, but we do have players coming through. This is another of your bizarre statements you’ve made before. You seem to genuinely believe the youth teams are better than the senior team. A few will end up very good players (and I agree that a few of them look technically better than we have had in the past) but most wont make it at even Scottish Premiership level. It’s how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, mccaughey85 said: Its ridiculous that you think that. How much of the u17 and u19 have you seen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Super_Scotlandfan said: This is another of your bizarre statements you’ve made before. You seem to genuinely believe the youth teams are better than the senior team. A few will end up very good players (and I agree that a few of them look technically better than we have had in the past) but most wont make it at even Scottish Premiership level. It’s how it works. On tonight's performance, how can you defend the full team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: No. Our u19 team would beat Czech D. No it wouldn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 The nutters are out in force tonight I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: This is another of your bizarre statements you’ve made before. You seem to genuinely believe the youth teams are better than the senior team. A few will end up very good players (and I agree that a few of them look technically better than we have had in the past) but most wont make it at even Scottish Premiership level. It’s how it works. We’ve not had Performance Schools before, so how can you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Malcolm said: No it wouldn’t Fair enough. It baffles me why, on this evidence, people are blaming absolutely everything but the players. We can sack all the managers we like. Won't change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 A large percentage of our u19s will be playing in the 4th tier scotpand or equivalent in England in 6 years. Have you ever looked at where our past u17s/u19s Scotland squads ended up, some didn't even make it as footballers and this was guys who reached the semis and finals of the euro championships, most played for lower league English clubs or teams like East Fife. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5808951/where-are-they-now-scotland-under-19-spain-2006-european-championship-final/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Taylor1996 said: On tonight's performance, how can you defend the full team? Because we live in the real world. If you genuinely believe that the u17s and u19s would compete at senior international level you have lost all credibility on footballing matters. Including your fascination with 3 at the back. Have you ever played football at even a Sunday league level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Malcolm said: Because we live in the real world. If you genuinely believe that the u17s and u19s would compete at senior international level you have lost all credibility on footballing matters. Including your fascination with 3 at the back. Have you ever played football at even a Sunday league level? I'd suggest that you watch the kids play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: How much of the u17 and u19 have you seen? I have actually watched a fair few of the u19s games and they haven't looked particularly great at keeping the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, mccaughey85 said: A large percentage of our u19s will be playing in the 4th tier scotpand or equivalent in England in 6 years. Have you ever looked at where our past u17s/u19s Scotland squads ended up, some didn't even make it as footballers and this was guys who reached the semis and finals of the euro championships, most played for lower league English clubs or teams like East Fife. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5808951/where-are-they-now-scotland-under-19-spain-2006-european-championship-final/amp/ As stated, we've never had performance schools before, so we really can't judge what happened in the past with what's happening now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Taylor1996 said: I'd suggest that you watch the kids play. i have seen the odd game. It’s a totally different level. Like a team of under tens that win everything in sight then step up to under 12s and find they are bang average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Three points and top of the group while being generally pretty poor. Five games without defeat too. Not usually a positive guy but weirdly feeling decent tonight. A Scotland win is always a happy occasion no matter how brutal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: I have actually watched a fair few of the u19s games and they haven't looked particularly great at keeping the ball. You haven't been watching closely enough. In the past year: 5 matches unbeaten, which includes a win against Germany and the Czechs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p gala ta Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Like the look of Super TA team . Dykes has been a standout up front and at the back at corners and free kicks, when he went off we were really struggling to defend . Go to back to 4 at the back with Tierney ,who was really good on Friday ,at right back .McTominay is not a centre back , he is costing us goals but we need him sitting in front of the defence . When we beat Israel Ryan Fraser tore them apart , he has to play in October . Would love to see the Thumb partnering Dykes up front. Kenny McLean is not international class ,nor is Fleck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, BucksburnDandy said: Three points and top of the group while being generally pretty poor. Five games without defeat too. Not usually a positive guy but weirdly feeling decent tonight. A Scotland win is always a happy occasion no matter how brutal! Yay! That's the spirit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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