Squirrelhumper Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Anyone watched this yet? Really well put together but pretty hard watch at times. Cannot help but feel for those poor people. Getting involved in that sham of a war is the most shameful act in modern British times - I don't know how Blair, Bush et al sleep at night but it's probably on a pillow of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I saw one last week and part of the one this week. Very interesting and very sad . Shocking politics from US, UK etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 The purpose of the Iraq invasion was to destroy and balkanize the country. They did the same thing to Libya,. They came damn close to doing it to Syria and they are absolutely slavering at the prospect of doing it to Iran. The human suffering inflicted on these innocent populations are war crimes. The people who orchestrated it in the US are all neo-conservatives and they did it for the benefit of another country. Blair was / is much more of a mystery. Why did a Labour politician become the fawning groupie to the most vile and repugnant of right wing republican presidents. Personally selling his pack of lies in order to systematically destroy Iraq... Plus Bush was clearly thick as fuck as well as hugely dislikeable. It was a very strange one. Personally I think Robert Harris has already told us the reason. The absolute joke of appointing Blair as some sort of Middle East peace envoy after he resigned as well... I saw Tony Benn being interviewed and when asked about that appointment and what did it mean he replied... "It means they don't want peace" or words similar. The frightening thing is how quick people still are to believe the pish spoon fed to them (by the likes of the BBC in particular who are right up there in pushing lies). Like the phony chemical attacks in Syria. Even after all of this they keep falling for it. It is depressing. All people hear from the mainstream media is Russia is the bad actor but really who are the countries involved in all these countries getting destroyed. It was not Russia. In fact Russia saved Syria. (That is why they hate Putin so much.) All of this is very much still on-going. They are not finished yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, fringo said: I saw one last week and part of the one this week. Very interesting and very sad . Shocking politics from US, UK etc I've watched all 5. Episode 5 in particular is very, very hard watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 The day Tony Blair dies, i'll raise a glass the same way I did with Thatcher. Absolute vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Squirrelhumper said: The day Tony Blair dies, i'll raise a glass the same way I did with Thatcher. Absolute vermin. Post of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: I've watched all 5. Episode 5 in particular is very, very hard watch. I didn't realise there were that many. I only caught it by chance last week. When did it start ? 4-5 wks ago ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Blair and Bush are just the faces for the public to focus on though, probably would have happened with anyone in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) Dick Cheeney was much instrumental, he set up the Office of Special plans to bypass the checks and balances for the president who then got given all the dodgy evidence via that instead of established channels. Bush was just a dupe. BBC got fucked over David Kelly. One of the journalists who helped "expose" Saville, wrote a book about David Kelly as well, it's grim reading and a much needed reminder how much of an absolute cunt Alistair Campbell is, he comes off even worse than Blair. This picture gies me the boak. Edited July 29, 2020 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, fringo said: I didn't realise there were that many. I only caught it by chance last week. When did it start ? 4-5 wks ago ? Aye they are all on iplayer mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, phart said: Dick Cheeney was much instrumental, he set up the Office of Special plans to bypass the checks and balances for the president who then got given all the dodgy evidence via that instead of established channels. Bush was just a dupe. BBC got fucked over David Kelly. One of the journalists who helped "expose" Saville, wrote a book about David Kelly as well, it's grim reading and a much needed reminder how much of an absolute cunt Alistair Campbell is, he comes off even worse than Blair. This picture gies me the boak. https://www.corbettreport.com/requiem-for-the-suicided-dr-david-kelly/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Listening to a great podcast about Iraq and rhe Gulf War called "Blowback" Really good and the US plus the UK and others are thoroughly shameful states.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) . Edited July 29, 2020 by thplinth off topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, thplinth said: . You just wanted to show everyone your new avatar, I reckon 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) . lol Edited July 29, 2020 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Getting involved in that sham of a war is the most shameful act in modern British times - I don't know how Blair, Bush et al sleep at night but it's probably on a pillow of cash. Tony Blair when writing to Rebekah Brooks after all the phone hacking scandal mentioned that he found sleeping tablets helped. Not sure if it's a personality fault of mine but that pleased me to hear he needed them to sleep at night. Edited July 29, 2020 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 11 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: https://www.corbettreport.com/requiem-for-the-suicided-dr-david-kelly/ I've seen that, the book covers a more narrow scope in much more detail. Specifically the timeline of family members the Coroner and more focus on the government actiosn rather than the other contradictions in requiem. Kelly's wife comes off weirdly in the book. I'd need to read it again to get the full details but very inconsistent and non-intuitive thought processes from her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 10 hours ago, phart said: Tony Blair when writing to Rebekah Brooks after all the phone hacking scandal mentioned that he found sleeping tablets helped. Not sure if it's a personality fault of mine but that pleased me to hear he needed them to sleep at night. Hopefully he overdoses on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Finished this the other night. Quite amazing how much damage this done to Iraq and how clueless Americans really are on the world stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 10:48 PM, phart said: Tony Blair when writing to Rebekah Brooks after all the phone hacking scandal mentioned that he found sleeping tablets helped. Not sure if it's a personality fault of mine but that pleased me to hear he needed them to sleep at night. Probably helps ‘playing asleep’ when that hideous wife of his makes a move. Pair of mutants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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