WCTA Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-52914016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny’s Yard Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just seen this. A lot of people owe the McCanns an apology if this guy turns out to be guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Seems that the German police have known about the guy for three years and have had the two vehicles for over a year and have - as yet - turned up nothing more than circumstantial evidence. This explains the public appeal - they've hit a brick wall. Basically, it boils down to, he's got form, he was in the general area at the time, there's some element of suspicious behaviour and there's an - unsubstantiated - admission that he was involved. Edited June 4, 2020 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 UK deaths should break through the 40,000 barrier today. Looks like this might be the smother story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Denny’s Yard said: Just seen this. A lot of people owe the McCanns an apology if this guy turns out to be guilty. They still pissed off to restaurant and left the wean in the apartment. Edited June 4, 2020 by bonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Denny’s Yard said: Just seen this. A lot of people owe the McCanns an apology if this guy turns out to be guilty. They left their kids unattended, each night of their holiday. I don't know what other folks parents did on holiday but my parents would never have dreamed of doing that when on holiday with us and they certainly never had the financial means the McCanns did to have childminders etc. If they wanted a couples holiday then they should have left the kids at home with grandparents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, bonzo said: They still pissed off to restaurant and left the wean in the apartment. 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: They left their kids unattended, each night of their holiday. I don't know what other folks parents did on holiday but my parents would never have dreamed of doing that when on holiday with us and they certainly never had the financial means the McCanns did to have childminders etc. If they wanted a couples holiday then they should have left the kids at home with grandparents. I don't think anyone is expecting them to win a ‘parent of the year award ‘ but there is a difference between being guilty of child neglect and being accused of murdering them, which I imagine Dennys Yard is referring to. Edited June 4, 2020 by TDYER63 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Tim Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I hope in some way this guy was responsible and the family now get some sort of peace from it. Either by finding her alive or by finally knowing what happened. There’s no doubt they shouldn’t have left the wee lassie but surely nobody thinks they got what they deserved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiny Tim said: I hope in some way this guy was responsible and the family now get some sort of peace from it. Either by finding her alive or by finally knowing what happened. There’s no doubt they shouldn’t have left the wee lassie but surely nobody thinks they got what they deserved? Thats how I feel. Whether they find Maddie or not they will have to live with the consequences of their action for the rest of their lives. They have probably paid the ultimate price for being irresponsible as I really cannot see them finding her alive . And as wrong as their actions were , I do not think they deserve that. I don’t think anyone on here thinks that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 nothing will come of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 These stories always appear in the press and then nothing comes of it. Ultimately there will be a prime suspect but with little evidence to prosecute. Worst outcome in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 What stinks about all this, regardless of what truth may or may not ever come out, is the simple fact that if someone left a 3-year-old, who then disappeared, in a council flat to cross the road for a couple of pints at the Dog & Duck, they'd be absolutely hounded as scum for the rest of their lives. If she was found, even her body, we'd all be expected to participate in some national vindication of them, but as far as I'm concerned, whatever happened to her was as a result of the kind of behaviour that your average half-wit knows you never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Huddersfield said: What stinks about all this, regardless of what truth may or may not ever come out, is the simple fact that if someone left a 3-year-old, who then disappeared, in a council flat to cross the road for a couple of pints at the Dog & Duck, they'd be absolutely hounded as scum for the rest of their lives. If she was found, even her body, we'd all be expected to participate in some national vindication of them, but as far as I'm concerned, whatever happened to her was as a result of the kind of behaviour that your average half-wit knows you never do. For me who is responsible is still up for dispute - who is accountable is irrefutable. The thing that got me is when you see Sara Payne's mum and James Bulger's mum they're absolutely broken. James Bulger's mum is absolutely haunted by losing her kid in a shopping centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Huddersfield said: What stinks about all this, regardless of what truth may or may not ever come out, is the simple fact that if someone left a 3-year-old, who then disappeared, in a council flat to cross the road for a couple of pints at the Dog & Duck, they'd be absolutely hounded as scum for the rest of their lives. If she was found, even her body, we'd all be expected to participate in some national vindication of them, but as far as I'm concerned, whatever happened to her was as a result of the kind of behaviour that your average half-wit knows you never do. I'd agree with that. In the circumstances I'm not sure charges of neglect or whatever really is in the public interest but I certainly don't buy into this whole myth of them being some sort of sainted couple. Only they will know if their actions in the immediate aftermath of essentially lawyering-up and not co-operating fully in the investigation has led to whoever was responsible getting away. Ultimately its a terrible story but there are huge levels of hypocrisy at play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 hours ago, EddardStark said: These stories always appear in the press and then nothing comes of it. Ultimately there will be a prime suspect but with little evidence to prosecute. Worst outcome in my opinion. Normally i would agree but i think there is something different this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 hours ago, ThistleWhistle said: For me who is responsible is still up for dispute - who is accountable is irrefutable. The thing that got me is when you see Sara Payne's mum and James Bulger's mum they're absolutely broken. James Bulger's mum is absolutely haunted by losing her kid in a shopping centre. Agree with the first paragraph but I dont think you can assume someone is less devastated by the loss of their child because of how they act. People have different coping mechanisms and some people are more demonstrative of their feelings than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: Normally i would agree but i think there is something different this time Thats how I feel., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny’s Yard Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 23 hours ago, TDYER63 said: I don't think anyone is expecting them to win a ‘parent of the year award ‘ but there is a difference between being guilty of child neglect and being accused of murdering them, which I imagine Dennys Yard is referring to. Absolutely this is what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prideothenorth Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 We all know that the parents were in the wrong and they have to live with this, so any closure either way is for the best. It is the poor wee girl I feel sorry for, who through no fault of her own has had her life taken away from her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Still reckon they know a lot more than they are letting on, something about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Imagine if one day she was found or turned up alive. It’s happened before - Steven Stayner. Good film too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 That's my feeling too. There's something about this case that's always bugged me. Of course absolutely tragic what happened but how many other kids have gone missing over this time period without so much of a peep across any media? This is another example of privilege in every day action. On 6/5/2020 at 7:45 AM, Huddersfield said: What stinks about all this, regardless of what truth may or may not ever come out, is the simple fact that if someone left a 3-year-old, who then disappeared, in a council flat to cross the road for a couple of pints at the Dog & Duck, they'd be absolutely hounded as scum for the rest of their lives. If she was found, even her body, we'd all be expected to participate in some national vindication of them, but as far as I'm concerned, whatever happened to her was as a result of the kind of behaviour that your average half-wit knows you never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 7:45 AM, Huddersfield said: What stinks about all this, regardless of what truth may or may not ever come out, is the simple fact that if someone left a 3-year-old, who then disappeared, in a council flat to cross the road for a couple of pints at the Dog & Duck, they'd be absolutely hounded as scum for the rest of their lives. If she was found, even her body, we'd all be expected to participate in some national vindication of them, but as far as I'm concerned, whatever happened to her was as a result of the kind of behaviour that your average half-wit knows you never do. To be fair in a civilised society if you leave a child in the house unattended the worst that should happen is the child injures themselves or burns the hoose doon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketrocketman1888 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 6/8/2020 at 9:27 AM, Ally Bongo said: To be fair in a civilised society if you leave a child in the house unattended the worst that should happen is the child injures themselves or burns the hoose doon unless you live in rotherham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) . Edited June 10, 2020 by Duncan Blackheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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