Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just watched the film last night again. The one with Clint Eastwood as Frank Morris. Cannae be arsed to read anymore about it. Great film. To this day, I still believe they have no bodies or no evidence whether they made it or not. You think they made it? Be like escaping from Barlinie and running the Forth witha fucking homemade rubber raft. Just sayin like. I'm bored again. No sharks though..🤣🤘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Cool film. For what it's worth I reckon they did make it. The authorities knew but covered any evidence that would have pointed conclusively to the escapees surviving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 7:29 PM, Big Ramy 1314 said: Just watched the film last night again. The one with Clint Eastwood as Frank Morris. Cannae be arsed to read anymore about it. Great film. To this day, I still believe they have no bodies or no evidence whether they made it or not. You think they made it? Be like escaping from Barlinie and running the Forth witha fucking homemade rubber raft. Just sayin like. I'm bored again. No sharks though..🤣🤘 There are many documentaries around that have gone deeper into it. One I watched not too long ago states the family of the escapees sent letters and postcards to them from far flung places. Plus it is said that a car on the island they were said to have reached was reported stolen around the time they would have made landfall. All thought provoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny’s Yard Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Ended up reading quite a bit about this last night, fascinating stuff. Thanks, wee Ramy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On reflection i'm not so sure It is plausible that they escaped and made it to landfall but then all three disappearing for the rest of their lives and never being positively identified again is unlikely One person maybe but three ? You would need to blend in and in a lot of cases would need a social security/work permit card etc Unless someone is going to put you up you are going to have to find steady employment and accommodation If you cant you are going to have to move around a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, Denny’s Yard said: Ended up reading quite a bit about this last night, fascinating stuff. Thanks, wee Ramy. No bother pal. I was the same . 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: On reflection i'm not so sure It is plausible that they escaped and made it to landfall but then all three disappearing for the rest of their lives and never being positively identified again is unlikely One person maybe but three ? You would need to blend in and in a lot of cases would need a social security/work permit card etc Unless someone is going to put you up you are going to have to find steady employment and accommodation If you cant you are going to have to move around a lot You could counter that though with not one body washed up anywhere in the San Francisco Bay? True there are as you say questions about social security etc but reports suggested they worked on a farm in South America which would have given them financial security. Also there are those letters and postcards sent to family members said to be from the three escapees so there is enough to say it is possible they escaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: On reflection i'm not so sure It is plausible that they escaped and made it to landfall but then all three disappearing for the rest of their lives and never being positively identified again is unlikely One person maybe but three ? You would need to blend in and in a lot of cases would need a social security/work permit card etc Unless someone is going to put you up you are going to have to find steady employment and accommodation If you cant you are going to have to move around a lot I’m sure a body was spotted from a ship near the Golden Gate Bridge a day or two after the escape so maybe only one or two of the three made it? The story at the time was there was no chance anyone could swim either stretch between Alcatraz and the mainland or Angel Island but it has been done tons of time since so it’s possible at least one survived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny’s Yard Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Texas Pete said: I’m sure a body was spotted from a ship near the Golden Gate Bridge a day or two after the escape so maybe only one or two of the three made it? The story at the time was there was no chance anyone could swim either stretch between Alcatraz and the mainland or Angel Island but it has been done tons of time since so it’s possible at least one survived. My pal has done a triathlon where the swim leg was from Alcatraz back to the mianland. He isn’t even that great a swimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 18 hours ago, Texas Pete said: I’m sure a body was spotted from a ship near the Golden Gate Bridge a day or two after the escape so maybe only one or two of the three made it? The story at the time was there was no chance anyone could swim either stretch between Alcatraz and the mainland or Angel Island but it has been done tons of time since so it’s possible at least one survived. That body has been discounted though as never had prison gear on which all Alcatraz inmates wore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 1:17 PM, Caledonian Craig said: That body has been discounted though as never had prison gear on which all Alcatraz inmates wore. They couldn’t have made or smuggled in clothes to help their escape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 9:22 AM, Caledonian Craig said: There are many documentaries around that have gone deeper into it. One I watched not too long ago states the family of the escapees sent letters and postcards to them from far flung places. Plus it is said that a car on the island they were said to have reached was reported stolen around the time they would have made landfall. All thought provoking. I think it is possible they made it. The fact it has never been actually solved, is fascinating. Then the prison closes a year later. Alcatraz is defo on my bucket list. I've a couple pals that went on the tour and said it brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 You’ll get there yet Ramy. Just down from yours. Sharks mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 19 hours ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: I think it is possible they made it. The fact it has never been actually solved, is fascinating. Then the prison closes a year later. Alcatraz is defo on my bucket list. I've a couple pals that went on the tour and said it brilliant. I finally got there last year. A brilliant visit and very eerie at some points. As for the escapees you reference above, I just can't see them having survived. The wind that whips through the Bay is strong and the waters choppy. They'd have had to be the luckiest guys in history to have safely made dry land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Parklife said: I finally got there last year. A brilliant visit and very eerie at some points. As for the escapees you reference above, I just can't see them having survived. The wind that whips through the Bay is strong and the waters choppy. They'd have had to be the luckiest guys in history to have safely made dry land. Fair point. There are so many different theories. Is it possible someone met them with a boat halfway across, anything is possible, it is just proving it that remains the mystery.. Hopefully one day the truth will come out, not to sure though after all these years. Thing is, will the public ever know. I actually dont know if I would want to know. It keeps the mystic and legend of Alcatraz alive. Glad you enjoyed the visit, I will get there one day. Like you said, eerie, feeling. That's exactly what my mate said.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 Good video. Eerie.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 2:27 AM, Big Ramy 1314 said: I think it is possible they made it. The fact it has never been actually solved, is fascinating. Then the prison closes a year later. Alcatraz is defo on my bucket list. I've a couple pals that went on the tour and said it brilliant. I went there a few years ago. Highly recommended. The prison has many of its original fittings in place and has been left as it was when a fully functioning prison. When I went thet even had the actual plaster cast head in a bumk that the prisoners actually used in their escape. You get a pair of earphones to put in so you can listen to a commentary as you walk around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 We did the night tour - The slamming of the cell doors in the dark was spine tingling - As was being locked in Al Capone's cell (13?) for 2 or 3 minutes I really 'enjoyed' Alcatraz, although Robben Island tops it for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 6:44 PM, Texas Pete said: I’m sure a body was spotted from a ship near the Golden Gate Bridge a day or two after the escape so maybe only one or two of the three made it? The story at the time was there was no chance anyone could swim either stretch between Alcatraz and the mainland or Angel Island but it has been done tons of time since so it’s possible at least one survived. Folk swim it all the time now. Although they're normally triathletes or open sea swimmers who train and have all the gear as opposed to prisoners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 On 4/27/2020 at 2:27 AM, Big Ramy 1314 said: I think it is possible they made it. The fact it has never been actually solved, is fascinating. Then the prison closes a year later. Alcatraz is defo on my bucket list. I've a couple pals that went on the tour and said it brilliant. I missed the Alcatraz tour I had booked in May 1999 as some of the boys from the San Francisco CSC (or whatever it was called) where we'd watched the title deciding game at Parkhead (Dallas hit with a coin etc) were buying us celebratory beers (well the ones that didn't want to murder us were!). Was convinced we'd just be able to go the next day and it was full for weeks. Always been a regret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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