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On 3/25/2020 at 5:58 AM, Stu101 said:

Only six in Scotland, according to the Times. No idea which teams.

On 3/25/2020 at 2:10 PM, Debian said:

Rangers, Celtic, Hibs, Dundee, Motherwell & Hamilton are the 6.

Following the suspension of football due to the measures to contain the spread of coronavirus, AFC was hoping to be able to claim against its insurance for some of the losses incurred as a result.

The Club paid for comprehensive business interruption cover with its current policy providing for certain consequences of the impact of COVID‐19.

However, with the policy up for annual renewal on the 30th of April, the Club has been advised by its broker that its insurer will now drop the wording within the existing business interruption policy that would cover us related to the consequences of a pandemic.

AFC Chairman, Dave Cormack, said: “As a diligent, well‐run organisation, we chose comprehensive business interruption cover and believe we may be one of only a few Clubs with an insurance policy that clearly covers the impact of a pandemic.

“Despite paying for that cover ‐ when we need it most, we’ve been advised we’re not going to get it!

“We accept that our insurance company is acting within its legal rights and that the present circumstances will give rise to multiple and significant insurance claims. But this leaves us bearing the majority of the continuing costs incurred as a result of the football suspension in response to the coronavirus, despite the outbreak occurring when we had cover. The bulk of our losses will likely be beyond the end of next month.

“This just doesn’t feel right in the present circumstances.

“We’ve raised this with a local MP because we believe there is a moral dilemma here, which should be addressed by the insurance industry and the government.”

Conservative MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, Andrew Bowie, said: “Overall, I have been impressed by how Aberdeen FC have turned a negative into something so positive. Many of the city’s elderly and most vulnerable are getting help through the club’s Still Standing Free initiative. So I was disappointed to hear the club’s insurer will effectively pull the rug out from under it next month. After talking to Dave Cormack, I agreed with the club’s position and have now raised the issue with Treasury officials. This will require co‐operation between insurers, government and the football community to find a way forward.”

Cormack added: “Perhaps what is needed is for pandemic claims to be dealt with in a similar way to those arising from floods and terrorism. That is, through an industry‐wide, public/private insurance solution which provides essential cover, at the cost of the insured, but with the cost of claims being spread across the whole of the insurance industry and the state. That seems an appropriate long‐term solution, for the solvency‐threatening consequences of pandemics.

“But, until that’s in place, would it not be the right thing for insurers to continue existing cover for so long as the consequences of the current COVID‐19 outbreak continue?”

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4 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said:

Following the suspension of football due to the measures to contain the spread of coronavirus, AFC was hoping to be able to claim against its insurance for some of the losses incurred as a result.

The Club paid for comprehensive business interruption cover with its current policy providing for certain consequences of the impact of COVID‐19.

However, with the policy up for annual renewal on the 30th of April, the Club has been advised by its broker that its insurer will now drop the wording within the existing business interruption policy that would cover us related to the consequences of a pandemic.

AFC Chairman, Dave Cormack, said: “As a diligent, well‐run organisation, we chose comprehensive business interruption cover and believe we may be one of only a few Clubs with an insurance policy that clearly covers the impact of a pandemic.

“Despite paying for that cover ‐ when we need it most, we’ve been advised we’re not going to get it!

“We accept that our insurance company is acting within its legal rights and that the present circumstances will give rise to multiple and significant insurance claims. But this leaves us bearing the majority of the continuing costs incurred as a result of the football suspension in response to the coronavirus, despite the outbreak occurring when we had cover. The bulk of our losses will likely be beyond the end of next month.

“This just doesn’t feel right in the present circumstances.

“We’ve raised this with a local MP because we believe there is a moral dilemma here, which should be addressed by the insurance industry and the government.”

Conservative MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, Andrew Bowie, said: “Overall, I have been impressed by how Aberdeen FC have turned a negative into something so positive. Many of the city’s elderly and most vulnerable are getting help through the club’s Still Standing Free initiative. So I was disappointed to hear the club’s insurer will effectively pull the rug out from under it next month. After talking to Dave Cormack, I agreed with the club’s position and have now raised the issue with Treasury officials. This will require co‐operation between insurers, government and the football community to find a way forward.”

Cormack added: “Perhaps what is needed is for pandemic claims to be dealt with in a similar way to those arising from floods and terrorism. That is, through an industry‐wide, public/private insurance solution which provides essential cover, at the cost of the insured, but with the cost of claims being spread across the whole of the insurance industry and the state. That seems an appropriate long‐term solution, for the solvency‐threatening consequences of pandemics.

“But, until that’s in place, would it not be the right thing for insurers to continue existing cover for so long as the consequences of the current COVID‐19 outbreak continue?”

They paid for pest control not pandemic insurance, Racoon not Corona.

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Now for the more complicated leagues. Our Nordic cousins also implement a split — of sorts. The 14-team Danish Superliga plays a regular season consisting of 26 matches where every side plays each other home and away before splitting. However, the league splits into three mini-divisions. The top six play each other twice more for the European slots, where the top two sides qualify automatically for Europe. The bottom eight are divided into two groups, Relegation Groups A and B.

Points are carried over, from the regular season. The top two sides from each Relegation group enter a Europa League play-off, where they play a QF and SF before the winners face the highest placed side in the top six that hasn’t already qualified for Europe in a one-legged playoff, played at the higher placed team ground.

The bottom two sides from each of the relegation groups enter a relegation play-off. In this, the last placed-team in each group faces off in a survival match, where the loser is relegated, the winner faces off against the runner-up of the First Division in their last chance saloon to stay in the Superliga. Whilst the two third-placed teams in the relegation group play each other and the winner survives and the loser plays third in the First Division in a play-off final. Simples.

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Just now, killiefaetheferry said:

Now for the more complicated leagues. Our Nordic cousins also implement a split — of sorts. The 14-team Danish Superliga plays a regular season consisting of 26 matches where every side plays each other home and away before splitting. However, the league splits into three mini-divisions. The top six play each other twice more for the European slots, where the top two sides qualify automatically for Europe. The bottom eight are divided into two groups, Relegation Groups A and B.

Points are carried over, from the regular season. The top two sides from each Relegation group enter a Europa League play-off, where they play a QF and SF before the winners face the highest placed side in the top six that hasn’t already qualified for Europe in a one-legged playoff, played at the higher placed team ground.

The bottom two sides from each of the relegation groups enter a relegation play-off. In this, the last placed-team in each group faces off in a survival match, where the loser is relegated, the winner faces off against the runner-up of the First Division in their last chance saloon to stay in the Superliga. Whilst the two third-placed teams in the relegation group play each other and the winner survives and the loser plays third in the First Division in a play-off final. Simples.

Found this article following rumours of a 14 team league. This is Denmark. confused about the Europa thingy.

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22 hours ago, Scotty CTA said:

Following the suspension of football due to the measures to contain the spread of coronavirus, AFC was hoping to be able to claim against its insurance for some of the losses incurred as a result.

The Club paid for comprehensive business interruption cover with its current policy providing for certain consequences of the impact of COVID‐19.

However, with the policy up for annual renewal on the 30th of April, the Club has been advised by its broker that its insurer will now drop the wording within the existing business interruption policy that would cover us related to the consequences of a pandemic.

AFC Chairman, Dave Cormack, said: “As a diligent, well‐run organisation, we chose comprehensive business interruption cover and believe we may be one of only a few Clubs with an insurance policy that clearly covers the impact of a pandemic.

“Despite paying for that cover ‐ when we need it most, we’ve been advised we’re not going to get it!

“We accept that our insurance company is acting within its legal rights and that the present circumstances will give rise to multiple and significant insurance claims. But this leaves us bearing the majority of the continuing costs incurred as a result of the football suspension in response to the coronavirus, despite the outbreak occurring when we had cover. The bulk of our losses will likely be beyond the end of next month.

“This just doesn’t feel right in the present circumstances.

“We’ve raised this with a local MP because we believe there is a moral dilemma here, which should be addressed by the insurance industry and the government.”

Conservative MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, Andrew Bowie, said: “Overall, I have been impressed by how Aberdeen FC have turned a negative into something so positive. Many of the city’s elderly and most vulnerable are getting help through the club’s Still Standing Free initiative. So I was disappointed to hear the club’s insurer will effectively pull the rug out from under it next month. After talking to Dave Cormack, I agreed with the club’s position and have now raised the issue with Treasury officials. This will require co‐operation between insurers, government and the football community to find a way forward.”

Cormack added: “Perhaps what is needed is for pandemic claims to be dealt with in a similar way to those arising from floods and terrorism. That is, through an industry‐wide, public/private insurance solution which provides essential cover, at the cost of the insured, but with the cost of claims being spread across the whole of the insurance industry and the state. That seems an appropriate long‐term solution, for the solvency‐threatening consequences of pandemics.

“But, until that’s in place, would it not be the right thing for insurers to continue existing cover for so long as the consequences of the current COVID‐19 outbreak continue?”

wonder if any of the hysterics during the typhoid epidemic of 1960s at pittodrie - assume the Donalds were in charge back then

" more corned beef sandwiches lads ? plenty to go round ....."

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Looks like things are moving behind the scenes with regard to a conclusion. No relegation and a move to a 14 team premiership next season and final league placings as you were or points per game if a team has played less. 

At this point I'm not sure I really care but some day that will change hopefully. 

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