Auchinyell Sox Change Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 been loosely aware of this for a few years now ; mostly listening to off the ball , as my exposure to Scottish club scene not that great these days but been a bit of chat about how long things can continue ; escalating wages (out of control) in EPL it sounds / compared to tv revenue - diminishing gate receipts etc just got a mass email from Aberdeen / Dave Cormack re 5 million likely shortfall ; unlikely to be much support for filling up the coffers to help pay wages for guys under contract getting stupid money when lot of folks personal/domestic situations are in dire straights although i dont think we'll ever go back to the days of the players being close to punters wages wise ; be nice to come out of this with a different approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Question. Are all footballers going to be paid their wages during this pandemic? Surely if teams were struggling financially before the Corona outbreak the players will be I danger of no getting their wages.. I guess it also depends on how long this will last.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Are any of the clubs insured for such an event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I would be very surprised if aberdeen were the only club to feel the pinch. Time will tell but i reckon every team in the league will see tough times without gate receipts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Would it be covered by the government scheme? Obviously the majority of players wil earn a good bit more than the £37k cut off, but it would help. Aberdeen had 4/5 home games left and the majority of the tickets will be season tickets that are paid for. Where’s the £5 million deficit? Is this projected for next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: Would it be covered by the government scheme? Obviously the majority of players wil earn a good bit more than the £37k cut off, but it would help. Aberdeen had 4/5 home games left and the majority of the tickets will be season tickets that are paid for. Where’s the £5 million deficit? Is this projected for next season? It wasn’t an exact science of a number. They estimated at £1,00,000+ from Scottish cup, refunds for tickets, no corporate, selling other tickets for the games, sponsorship, early season ticket sales etc etc. Some huns have went into absolute meltdown, thinking administration is coming, but dont realise if Aberdeen are set to lose out on 5,000,000 for loss of attendance and prize money, then Rangers will be set to lose at least 5 x that amount. Twitter has made some incredible reading since this was announced 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, dandydunn said: It wasn’t an exact science of a number. They estimated at £1,00,000+ from Scottish cup, refunds for tickets, no corporate, selling other tickets for the games, sponsorship, early season ticket sales etc etc. Some huns have went into absolute meltdown, thinking administration is coming, but dont realise if Aberdeen are set to lose out on 5,000,000 for loss of attendance and prize money, then Rangers will be set to lose at least 5 x that amount. Twitter has made some incredible reading since this was announced 🤣 Never even thought of that. Huns were fuckin skint even before this happened. Interesting to see how all of this unfolds.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Never even thought of that. Huns were fuckin skint even before this happened. Interesting to see how all of this unfolds.. Yes you did. Don’t lie min 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Are any of the clubs insured for such an event? Only six in Scotland, according to the Times. No idea which teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Never even thought of that. Huns were fuckin skint even before this happened. Interesting to see how all of this unfolds.. European payments for this year will keep us ticking over. Good fortune that Celtic went out when they did- in order that we get the vast majority of the media (or what ever UEFA calls it these days) pot for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, dandydunn said: It wasn’t an exact science of a number. They estimated at £1,00,000+ from Scottish cup, refunds for tickets, no corporate, selling other tickets for the games, sponsorship, early season ticket sales etc etc. Some huns have went into absolute meltdown, thinking administration is coming, but dont realise if Aberdeen are set to lose out on 5,000,000 for loss of attendance and prize money, then Rangers will be set to lose at least 5 x that amount. Twitter has made some incredible reading since this was announced 🤣 A lot will be down to seson tickets. The more paid up season tickets you have, the safer you are (until fans start to ask for their cash back- which I think is (hopefully) unlikley). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Yes you did. Don’t lie min 🤣🤣🤣 Okay then. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Stu101 said: Only six in Scotland, according to the Times. No idea which teams. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Thank you. Rangers, Celtic, Hibs, Dundee, Motherwell & Hamilton are the 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 There will be plenty of clubs all over the world that will be in trouble. Barcelona are reportedly looking at asking players to take a 70 percent pay cut, so no one will be exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, Mox said: There will be plenty of clubs all over the world that will be in trouble. Barcelona are reportedly looking at asking players to take a 70 percent pay cut, so no one will be exempt. Read bayern of the munchen were doing 20% pay cuts ; wow.... is some insurance in these cases not voided by ‘act of god ‘ Scotty min ; that was nt a segway :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Debian said: Rangers, Celtic, Hibs, Dundee, Motherwell & Hamilton are the 6. Hamilton don't seem too confident. (Are you sure that the other team wasn't Stranraer?) 4 hours ago, Auchinyell Sox Change said: is some insurance in these cases not voided by ‘act of god ‘ Or what if the wording isn't specific enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: Hamilton don't seem too confident. (Are you sure that the other team wasn't Stranraer?) Yes Hamilton and not Stranraer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Auchinyell Sox Change said: is some insurance in these cases not voided by ‘act of god ‘ Some may, but most would be able to now rely on the fact that it is a government order to stop playing (thus a 'business interuption'). Further some policies will have specific epidemic and pandemic wording- I've seen policies (not sports related) that actually referrence Corona Virus - since it is a known catagory of virus, and has been for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Stu101 said: Some may, but most would be able to now rely on the fact that it is a government order to stop playing (thus a 'business interuption'). Further some policies will have specific epidemic and pandemic wording- I've seen policies (not sports related) that actually referrence Corona Virus - since it is a known catagory of virus, and has been for some time. thanks for clarification ; i was just taking some stuff id seen written elsewhere ; that wasnt football club relatedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Aberdeen have announced that their insurance will not be paid out after 30th April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, jailender said: Aberdeen have announced that their insurance will not be paid out after 30th April. funny i was just reading that in EE https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/donsnews/aberdeen-chairman-dave-cormack-hits-out-after-clubs-insurers-remove-pandemic-cover-during-covid-19-crisis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 When this is over, the number of senior clubs in Scotland (and elsewhere) will be much reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, jailender said: When this is over, the number of senior clubs in Scotland (and elsewhere) will be much reduced. Theoretically anybody below Premiership level shouldn’t be paying anybody much more than £37k per year. While there’s a lot of uncertainty, if the government job retention scheme is as straight forward as it sounds (big IF) clubs should be covered to pay their employees. I know Dundee United’s owner (? American guy??) basically admitted they had gone all-in on getting promoted this year, so they will need to go back to the well (no apostrophe!) but otherwise clubs have a fair chunk of the 19/20 season money already in the bank, and can cut costs until football starts again. Edited March 26, 2020 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Berwick Rangers paying their players fully to completion of their contracts. Putting several bigger clubs to shame. Absolutely brilliant from the new BOD’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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