phart Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I believe this is the Coronavirus thread and not the one about statue guarding, BLM or the BBC The protests with Piers Corbyn, David Icke and some right wing goons at the weekend was about anti masks/lockdowns etc was it not ? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-texas-man-dies-covid-party-hoax-a9614231.html https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/14/healthy-man-who-blasted-coronavirus-hype-refused-wear-mask-killed-12987711/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/landon-spradlin-coronavirus-pandemic-death-punchline/ https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/11/young-man-died-coronavirus-trying-catch-covid-party-prove-was-hoax-12976195/ Ah right i forgot that folk were even protesting that. Corona might very well visit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: A lot of apathy going around at the moment, i dont think another lock down will hapen If they tried anther lockdown I don't think the public would buy into it. People have seen their lives torn apart from the last lockdown, families with both parents losing their jobs etc and even now, 1000s of job losses a week and very, very few deaths. I was surprised by how cooperative folk were the last time, especially youths but no chance there would be the same cooperation again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: If they tried anther lockdown I don't think the public would buy into it. People have seen their lives torn apart from the last lockdown, families with both parents losing their jobs etc and even now, 1000s of job losses a week and very, very few deaths. I was surprised by how cooperative folk were the last time, especially youths but no chance there would be the same cooperation again, So you didn’t think that people would co-operate last time but they did and now you’re certain they won’t do similar if the circumstances repeat themselves. Whats that quote again from Einstein about the definition of insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, aaid said: So you didn’t think that people would co-operate last time but they did and now you’re certain they won’t do similar if the circumstances repeat themselves. Whats that quote again from Einstein about the definition of insanity. Yes, you read that right. Last time folk were scared rigid by it, I don't think folk have the same fear this time. Certainly not to support a full lockdown. Folk have proven they are happy to cooperate with measures such as face masks, social distancing but I cannot see the UK population buying into a full lockdown (or even close to it) like last time. Also, 6 months down the line folk who had cancer treatments etc put off, are still waiting for these to restart. As I said earlier, it's hard for the government to justify the economic and health reasons for a full lockdown, when you see the lasting impact it will have in other aspects of life. Can see over 70s back into shielding for the full winter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 PS I said I was "surprised" and "don't think" Hardly "I didn't think" and "certain" Nice try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: PS I said I was "surprised" and "don't think" Hardly "I didn't think" and "certain" Nice try though. Splitting hairs. I doubt we’d go into a full blanket l lockdown again but that’s down to several factors, first of all we know a lot more about the virus and how it operates than we did in March, we also have a testing and tracking system on place which looks so far that it’s working and finally people are - in the main - being pretty sensible about social distancing etc and how they behave. Had we had those in place in March, there wouldn’t have been any need to do a full lockdown - however there ls no way that could’ve been the case so locking down was the only option Until there’s an effective vaccination in place and rolled out, those will continue to be the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I caught a bit of the FM’s update yesterday. Whilst she didn't actually say it , she strongly suggested there will be no full lock down and any future spikes will be controlled by localised lock downs. She also confirmed the restrictions imposed could be different in each area , based on the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: I caught a bit of the FM’s update yesterday. Whilst she didn't actually say it , she strongly suggested there will be no full lock down and any future spikes will be controlled by localised lock downs. She also confirmed the restrictions imposed could be different in each area , based on the circumstances. Aye, I'd be surprised at any full lockdown, especially once furlough ends. Whether we want to do it or not, no chance we'll do a full lockdown if there is no furlough scheme. NS hinting at lockdown for Greater Glasgow, which is 1.2m folk. Be interesting to see how they play this given she'll since went on to plead for furlough to be extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Aye, I'd be surprised at any full lockdown, especially once furlough ends. Whether we want to do it or not, no chance we'll do a full lockdown if there is no furlough scheme. NS hinting at lockdown for Greater Glasgow, which is 1.2m folk. Be interesting to see how they play this given she'll since went on to plead for furlough to be extended. Glasgow, East Ren and West Dunbartonshire, where I live, are not allowed to have folk from other households from midnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, King Of Paisley said: Glasgow, East Ren and West Dunbartonshire, where I live, are not allowed to have folk from other households from midnight Good excuse to go to your mate's in Paisley with a cairry oot then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Good excuse to go to your mate's in Paisley with a cairry oot then Sadly not. It means I can't visit anyone's home regardless of the area. Can still go to the pub though, albeit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, King Of Paisley said: Glasgow, East Ren and West Dunbartonshire, where I live, are not allowed to have folk from other households from midnight She's onto plums if she thinks folk are going to listen to that when you can go to pubs, restaurants, gyms etc. Imagine being a teacher who lives themselves, teaches 100+ kids each day all week but she's now saying they cant visit a mate or family on their day off. Aye no bother 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 So I’m supposed to be going to the Lake District at the weekend. These Glasgow lockdown rules are suitably vague that I’m not sure if that’s permitted or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: So I’m supposed to be going to the Lake District at the weekend. These Glasgow lockdown rules are suitably vague that I’m not sure if that’s permitted or not! You're staying a hotel I presume and not visiting a house so go to pubs/restaurants down there and enjoy yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: If they tried anther lockdown I don't think the public would buy into it. People have seen their lives torn apart from the last lockdown, families with both parents losing their jobs etc and even now, 1000s of job losses a week and very, very few deaths. I was surprised by how cooperative folk were the last time, especially youths but no chance there would be the same cooperation again, Have to agree, the dust has settled and folk now understand the risks and would be a lot more "daring" going forward IMO. Dont get me wrong folk are still worried but do they think the risks out weigh the alternative? i think folk in general are just wanting to push on carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: You're staying a hotel I presume and not visiting a house so go to pubs/restaurants down there and enjoy yourself. That’s my take on it too. We’re taking the in-laws as well but they’re fine with it. I suppose the only issue would be if the B&B maybe don’t accept us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Rates in Glasgow and West Dunbartonshire are such that if they were foreign countries we’d have them on the quarantine list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, biffer said: Rates in Glasgow and West Dunbartonshire are such that if they were foreign countries we’d have them on the quarantine list. Just got sent this Makes my blood boil The infection rate per 100,000 people which guides the science Aberdeen at its height 14 per 100,000 people, entire city shut off Glasgow just now 22 per 100,000 Dumbartonshire 33 per 100,000, just advised not to go to other people’s houses I’m an aberdonion first and foremost before being Scottish, an enemy of Aberdeen is no friend of mine. Have had Nippys back through most of this but she’s taking the piss now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Just got sent this Makes my blood boil The infection rate per 100,000 people which guides the science Aberdeen at its height 14 per 100,000 people, entire city shut off Glasgow just now 22 per 100,000 Dumbartonshire 33 per 100,000, just advised not to go to other people’s houses I’m an aberdonion first and foremost before being Scottish, an enemy of Aberdeen is no friend of mine. Have had Nippys back through most of this but she’s taking the piss now 'Nippy' kinda gives the game away in terms of motive Spain had a 5/100,000 When the UKG shut them down Abz & Gla appear(ed) beyond that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, biffer said: Rates in Glasgow and West Dunbartonshire are such that if they were foreign countries we’d have them on the quarantine list. Yep, that's what I believe too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 It's hard to tell, the number of folk tested who would normally be asymptomatic has increased greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Redz said: 'Nippy' kinda gives the game away in terms of motive Spain had a 5/100,000 When the UKG shut them down Abz & Gla appear(ed) beyond that.... Also the 'Aberdonian first and foresmost' is a strong indicator that he is likely to be a moaning Tory cunt of the highest order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Jim Beem said: Also the 'Aberdonian first and foresmost' is a strong indicator that he is likely to be a moaning Tory cunt of the highest order. Particularly as he can’t spell Aberdonian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, phart said: It's hard to tell, the number of folk tested who would normally be asymptomatic has increased greatly. BBC has West Dunbartonshire over 30 and Glasgow over 20 positive tests per 100,000 population. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53989021 Edited September 1, 2020 by biffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, phart said: It's hard to tell, the number of folk tested who would normally be asymptomatic has increased greatly. I suspect that’s mostly schoolkids. Saw something earlier which had - and I’m doing it from memory so don’t guarantee the numbers are 100% - that there'd been over 20000 primary school kids tested but only a couple of hundred positive tests. This obviously coincides with the schools going back and a load of parents being over-cautious- and I’m being charitable there. Probably why they were reinforcing the whole “only get a test if you’ve got actual symptoms” line and why the system came under strain the other weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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