phart Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 20,217 new cases of COVID-19 reported* 65,860 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results* 34.9% of these were positive 38 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 1,031 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 ICU still under 40. lot's of positive tests though and % is mental. Probably a lot of incidental positives as well if following trend down south. Seems main issue is staffing due to isolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Hearing that NSW health here are allowing staff to work if they have a positive test but are asymptomatic. Not sure if thatās location specific or includes cities, regional and rural areas.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Hearing that NSW health here are allowing staff to work if they have a positive test but are asymptomatic. Not sure if thatās location specific or includes cities, regional and rural areas.Ā I know that Aussies are simple creatures, but that canāt be true, can it š³ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, phart said: lot's of positive tests though and % is mental. Does that % include lateral flow tests? (ie I don't imagine many people report negative LFTs). Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, kumnio said: I know that Aussies are simple creatures, but that canāt be true, can it š³ Sorry talking shite, asymptomatic close contacts NSWĀ HealthĀ announced late on Friday night that in āexceptional circumstancesā, frontline workers who are asymptomatic close contacts will be exempt from having to self-isolate for seven days, to avoid disruption to key services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Does that % include lateral flow tests? (ie I don't imagine many people report negative LFTs). Ā LFTs have never counted. Unless something has changed.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 A new case is someone who has tested positive for the virus on a PCR test. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 6 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: Sorry talking shite, asymptomatic close contacts NSWĀ HealthĀ announced late on Friday night that in āexceptional circumstancesā, frontline workers who are asymptomatic close contacts will be exempt from having to self-isolate for seven days, to avoid disruption to key services. Thatās what my wife has been told if anyone of us get it, but she doesnāt. She can still work at the nhs.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 21 hours ago, phart said: 20,217 new cases of COVID-19 reported* 65,860 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results* 34.9% of these were positive 38 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 1,031 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 ICU still under 40. lot's of positive tests though and % is mental. Probably a lot of incidental positives as well if following trend down south. Seems main issue is staffing due to isolation. A load of those positive cases will be folk who have gone in into hospital fo reasons other than COVID but have tested positive on arrival.Ā My sisters pal was in hospital same time as her giving birth. Both tested, her pal came back positive so had to wear mask etc during birth and her husband wasnt allowed in. She would have counted as a COVID patient in hospital.Ā ICU is still very low, was 3 times that in the latter part of the summer in Scotland which hopefully means Omicron is very mild as many predicted and as SA suggested.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 13 hours ago, dandydunn said: Thatās what my wife has been told if anyone of us get it, but she doesnāt. She can still work at the nhs.Ā My sister in law the same.Ā Which makes a mockery of the strict isolation rules in Scotland. If it is that dangerous then why are the rules bent to suit staffing shortages in the sectors that deal with the most vulnerable? Currently you can't walk your dog for 10 days if you share a house with a positive case but in theory your next door neighbour would be told to go and work in a hospital in the same situation! BonkersĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 And cross the border and household of pcr +veās can carry on life as normal subject to being fully vaxād and doing a daily lat flowā¦ā¦. āmon the Carlisle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: My sister in law the same.Ā Which makes a mockery of the strict isolation rules in Scotland. If it is that dangerous then why are the rules bent to suit staffing shortages in the sectors that deal with the most vulnerable? Currently you can't walk your dog for 10 days if you share a house with a positive case but in theory your next door neighbour would be told to go and work in a hospital in the same situation! BonkersĀ The rules aren't being "bent". Different rules have applied to some NHS staff for a while now. There is logic to having different rules for different for different people. You might not agree with the rules, and in time it might be shown that the decision was wrong, but they have been thought through. They are taking calculated risks all the time with these decisions. They won't get them all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: A load of those positive cases will be folk who have gone in into hospital fo reasons other than COVID but have tested positive on arrival.Ā Ā Yeah they're calling them incidental positives. Ir's what I was saying. Also their changing the rules on staffing probably cause it is less dangerous to have staff with potential exposure but negative test working than having lower level of staff. As risk profiles change so do the rules to mitigate them, it's a simple strategy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Anybody else had an absolute bstrd of a painful shoulder since getting jagged?Ā It feels like the beginning of a frozen shoulder - reaching up, back or to the side is fkin hideous.Ā I got no other symptoms after my 3 jags but tbh I would've preferred a few days with flu-like issues to this.Ā Hopefully it'll wear off in time but not pleasant right now.Ā Ā š¬ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: My sister in law the same.Ā Which makes a mockery of the strict isolation rules in Scotland. If it is that dangerous then why are the rules bent to suit staffing shortages in the sectors that deal with the most vulnerable? Ā Because it is more dangerous to be short staffed? I am astonished you seem unable to grasp any of the concepts - you might disagree with the balances being struck but at least then you would be arguing about the actual point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, daviebee said: Anybody else had an absolute bstrd of a painful shoulder since getting jagged?Ā It feels like the beginning of a frozen shoulder - reaching up, back or to the side is fkin hideous.Ā I got no other symptoms after my 3 jags but tbh I would've preferred a few days with flu-like issues to this.Ā Hopefully it'll wear off in time but not pleasant right now.Ā Ā š¬ How long have you had it, anything more than a few days and you should probably contact the NHS. I had mild flu for 24 hours after the first - AZ, nothing after the second, also AZ, then the Moderna booster. The vaccinator told me I'd likely have a sore arm afterwards and did for about 2-3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, aaid said: How long have you had it, anything more than a few days and you should probably contact the NHS. I had mild flu for 24 hours after the first - AZ, nothing after the second, also AZ, then the Moderna booster. The vaccinator told me I'd likely have a sore arm afterwards and did for about 2-3 days. If you did have flu, of any description, mild or otherwise, it wasn't cause by the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, phart said: Yeah they're calling them incidental positives. Ir's what I was saying. Also their changing the rules on staffing probably cause it is less dangerous to have staff with potential exposure but negative test working than having lower level of staff. As risk profiles change so do the rules to mitigate them, it's a simple strategy, Whitty has just said that - for England obviously but no reason to believe that itās any different in Scotland - for the Ā majority of people who have been admitted to hospital COVID is the primary reason for their admission.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, Orraloon said: If you did have flu, of any description, mild or otherwise, it wasn't cause by the vaccine. Mild flu-like symptoms, was trying to use shorthand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, aaid said: Whitty has just said that - for England obviously but no reason to believe that itās any different in Scotland - for the Ā majority of people who have been admitted to hospital COVID is the primary reason for their admission.Ā Yeah it;s about 70-30 last figures I saw, it used to be as high as 97-3 or something , it all depends on prevalence. Then you have problems with hospital acquired infections in people who are at risk and having to institute infection control etc. It sounds a nightmare to sort out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, aaid said: How long have you had it, anything more than a few days and you should probably contact the NHS. I had mild flu for 24 hours after the first - AZ, nothing after the second, also AZ, then the Moderna booster. The vaccinator told me I'd likely have a sore arm afterwards and did for about 2-3 days. Weeks. Didn't really want to bother a doctor though cos they've got enough on their plates.Ā I'm assuming it's been the jags as I'm totally pain-free on the non-jagged side which does just as much physical work as the jagged one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 in fact my poiny is covered here Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, daviebee said: Weeks. Didn't really want to bother a doctor though cos they've got enough on their plates.Ā I'm assuming it's been the jags as I'm totally pain-free on the non-jagged side which does just as much physical work as the jagged one. Give the hotline a call.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, daviebee said: Anybody else had an absolute bstrd of a painful shoulder since getting jagged? I received my booster 2 weeks ago and for the past week my upper arm has been aching significantly - Until today. Today it seems to have eased significantly. I expect to be tip-top within a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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