phart Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 not sure how true this is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, phart said: not sure how true this is Would that potentially be good news if it's true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: Would that potentially be good news if it's true? Depends on too many variables we don't know the answer too yet. Also i'm not qualified to say, parrotting others though it is far too soon. Means it's pretty much here and spreading in the community if true. Also think it might be a big of clickbait headline after reading the actual words of the person being quoted, it's all "potentially" the cases in Scotland appear to be community transmission though. Wastewater analysis in SA seem to indicate high levels of infection there as well. If it is a less virulent though but more transmissable we could get lucky and it blows through providing immunity at a fraction of the human life cost. No one knows anything concrete though. Talking a couple of weeks before scientists get enough data to make educated guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ThistleWhistle said: Would that potentially be good news if it's true? Not good news for our ‘first class sequencing’ 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Lamia said: Not good news for our ‘first class sequencing’ 🤔 We've already identified more than anyone else as far as i'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 48 minutes ago, phart said: We've already identified more than anyone else as far as i'm aware. Maybe we just kept quiet this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 This is a wild story in Portugal https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59465983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 One massive uncounted casualty of this pandemic and home office'ing. I am now on awaiting my third home office chair in less than two years. I am not even that fat. This is ridiculous. If this one goes I am going to buy some Herman Miller type NASA built one for the clinically obese. It will be cheaper in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 12 hours ago, thplinth said: One massive uncounted casualty of this pandemic and home office'ing. I am now on awaiting my third home office chair in less than two years. I am not even that fat. This is ridiculous. If this one goes I am going to buy some Herman Miller type NASA built one for the clinically obese. It will be cheaper in the long run. I took home my office chair - the one I have had for probably 20 years 🤔😳😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 The Moderna boss is not too confident about vaccine effectiveness against Omicron. He admits, that at this stage, that's just an educated guess and concludes the same as most scientists, that we need more data. https://www.ft.com/content/27def1b9-b9c8-47a5-8e06-72e432e0838f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: The Moderna boss is not too confident about vaccine effectiveness against Omicron. He admits, that at this stage, that's just an educated guess and concludes the same as most scientists, that we need more data. https://www.ft.com/content/27def1b9-b9c8-47a5-8e06-72e432e0838f Depends on what basis they're judging efficteness as well. Will it stop more severe outcomes. Neutralise infection etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 My question too would be how is the conflict of interest being managed? Moderna's share price for the year is c.220% up (AZ 11% and Pfizer 40%), their vaccine is the dearest and they make c.20% profit on each jab which was about $8 profit per jab from memory off the BBC article saw about a month back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 What conflict of interest specifically? This is a long line of profiterring/gouging that has been going on for decades. Would be good if this situation was a catalyst for some change in that area. NHS probably going to get sold off and the situation even worse in the future though. AZ (a situation that is about to change) were the only ones not gouging, even sputnik was getting touted for over the odds as well with dodgy re-sale agreements. The problem is systemic as opposed to something specific to Moderna. I doubt the COI are being managed. So much grifting going on all over the place in every angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaff Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 shut down Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, chaff said: shut down Scotland. I see she's still claiming COP26 had no effect. Strange that, got a few mates in the police and they are saying exact opposite. Saying sickness with covid went through the roof during/after it. The must maligned football isn't even on the drop down menu after the positive case when reporting a positive but COP is. Strange that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, phart said: Depends on what basis they're judging efficteness as well. Will it stop more severe outcomes. Neutralise infection etc. Aye, lots of different ways to measure "effectiveness". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Cases have been oscilating up and down between fairly close values for a while now. Obviously impossible to get a breakdown but cases in every age group bar 20-24 have been dropoing somewhat since COP ended. Obviously so many confounders it's impossible to say what had an effect but here's the last 30 days, end of Cop will be halfway along the curve roughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaff Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I'd now like to see confirmed seasonal flu figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, chaff said: I'd now like to see confirmed seasonal flu figures. last report 25/11 Influenza activity was at Baseline level. There were 12 influenza cases: three type A(H3), four type A (subtype unknown) and five type B. This compares with 10 influenza cases reported in week 45. https://www.publichealthscotland.scot/publications/weekly-national-seasonal-respiratory-report/weekly-national-seasonal-respiratory-report-week-46-2021/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaff Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Wonder what they will do if people don't pay. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59474808 Edited November 30, 2021 by Lamia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Some more speculation on origin of new variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaff Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I'm home from Berlin. The difference in the 2 countries is staggering. I wasn't even asked for my passenger location form on arrival at Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Now waiting to see the impact of Storm Arwen on Covid levels in the affected areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I'm concerned about the effect of that "31 ridiculous pics taken at the beach" advert at the bottom of my tamb pages...... it will make masses congregate at the seaside...... in any weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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