phart Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 The virlogists i've been following have been saying there is no way to tell if it came from a lab leak or Zoonosis. As they've found common ancestors in the wild but that doesn't stop it being worked on then it escaping. Also stating that a lot of data hasn't been disclosed. If it were created in a lab, i.e. bio-engineered as opposed to just escaping, it shows you how much better a chemist/biologist nature is considering the original virus got improved upon multiple times in less than a year by its own mutations. I'm not sure about the conflic of interest thing but looking at the Jeremy Farrar one it is rather tenuous, he wrote a paper once with someone who knows someone. There's dozens of authors on papers these days, in fact the Higg Boson paper has 5154 authors. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.17567 The Daszak one is much clearer and shows a definite conflict of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) This came out as well Science Closes In on Covidās Origins Four studiesāincluding two from WHOāprovide powerful evidence favoring the lab-leak theory. https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-coronavirus-lab-leak-virology-origins-pandemic-11633462827 The lab that did the study cited also speaks on it Ā Edited October 7, 2021 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Morrisandmoo Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, phart said: Ā "Among other issues, it contained patients who turned out to have died before the trial started." Ā The fact Ivermectin has managed not only to cure people from Covid, but actually bring them back from the dead is surely a positive thing? Vaccine had probaly killed the poor cunts as well.Ā Edited October 7, 2021 by Morrisandmoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 That's my gran got her booster, moderna. Flu as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 5:42 PM, Lamia said: Are we really going to see no impact of schools returning in England?Ā š¤ Ā On 9/20/2021 at 10:02 AM, Alibi said: Makes me wonder if the UK government is fiddling the figures.Ā Logically you would expect infections in England to have risen significantly, and to be exacerbated by the total abandonment of common sense by most of the population. Looks like your suspicions might be right Folk were talking about data around the same time Ā Turns out 43k false negatives more info all in these threads, seems to be only affecting a certain region though. Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Also Delta variant has a new sub lineage AY.4.2. Slowly making it's way up the percentage of sequencing ladder, currently at 7%, so might be more transmissable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, phart said: Also Delta variant has a new sub lineage AY.4.2. Slowly making it's way up the percentage of sequencing ladder, currently at 7%, so might be more transmissable. First impressions suggest not a huge advantage, not a massive change like Alpha or Delta.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, biffer said: First impressions suggest not a huge advantage, not a massive change like Alpha or Delta.Ā Ā 10% possibly, too many confounding variables to know atm. Or so the experts say, not like i'm calculating it myself. EDIT: I got the news of this from the maths dude i quoted above quoting this dude! Edited October 16, 2021 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 So they release (accidentally or otherwise) a bio-weapon upon the population of the world and then expect us to trust them with the 'vaccinations'. Seems legit.Ā š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The best news Africa has had since Band Aid. https://qz.com/africa/2074526/ex-uk-health-secretary-matt-hancocks-africa-covid-role-canceled/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Some interesting thoughts about "Exercise Alice". https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/10/11/exercise-alice-the-uk-government-did-test-the-response-to-a-coronavirus-but-why-are-we-only-discovering-this-now/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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86glebestreet Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 4:25 PM, TDYER63 said: The best news Africa has had since Band Aid. https://qz.com/africa/2074526/ex-uk-health-secretary-matt-hancocks-africa-covid-role-canceled/ š¤£ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Cheers for that @phart.Ā Ā Ā Quote Ā So I hope we can now see that: ā¢ Yes, mask-wearing has plummeted in England and reversing that would help ā¢ But higher rates of crowded indoor mixing are likely a bigger issue ā¢ And both are almost certainly dwarfed by UKās much more acute waning problem (as seen in Israel) Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Early November will be 5 months since my 2nd vax, and that's when it (AZ) start to wane.Ā Ā Give that I know a health worker who'll just get boosted next week, there is still a long queue before I'll get one.Ā Ā So looks like the boosters are being rolled out too slowly/late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, Grim Jim said: Early November will be 5 months since my 2nd vax, and that's when it (AZ) start to wane.Ā Ā Give that I know a health worker who'll just get boosted next week, there is still a long queue before I'll get one.Ā Ā So looks like the boosters are being rolled out too slowly/late. At present the policy is 6 months after your 2nd jag at the earliest. So you won't get your third one until at least December. But we shouldn't forget that a lot of people haven't had any vaccinations at all yet. Get your pub visits in over the next couple of weeks, then go into hibernation until you get your booster just before Hogmanay.Ā š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, Grim Jim said: Early November will be 5 months since my 2nd vax, and that's when it (AZ) start to wane.Ā Ā Give that I know a health worker who'll just get boosted next week, there is still a long queue before I'll get one.Ā Ā So looks like the boosters are being rolled out too slowly/late. I haven't been able to findĀ a suitable source for the Scottish numbers but this guy is doing daily updates for England on booster. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I become eligible end of November for booster. Gran got hers last week. 5 days after she became eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Also his posts on New Zeland Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Orraloon said: At present the policy is 6 months after your 2nd jag at the earliest. So you won't get your third one until at least December. But we shouldn't forget that a lot of people haven't had any vaccinations at all yet. Get your pub visits in over the next couple of weeks, then go into hibernation until you get your booster just before Hogmanay.Ā š Sounds like a plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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