Grim Jim Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Yet Sarah Smith lives to lie another day. Well, we're an irrelevance to them. And they defend Kuenssberg, who is not impartial at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 And there you have it shameful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newryrep Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, wheres the pies said: And there you have it shameful hardly a surprise but why this isn't front an centre is indeed a mystery and I don't buy the 'lets get through this and then have an inquiry 'bollix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, wheres the pies said: And there you have it shameful Full article here https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Newryrep said: hardly a surprise but why this isn't front an centre is indeed a mystery and I don't buy the 'lets get through this and then have an inquiry 'bollix They're relying on a public inquiry, which will be split into multiple stages and take 10-15 years to report - see Grenfell, Hillsborough etc.etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, biffer said: They're relying on a public inquiry, which will be split into multiple stages and take 10-15 years to report - see Grenfell, Hillsborough etc.etc. If they appoint John Chilcott then we're in trouble. That said, I'm interested in what decisions were made, when, why and by who, what the alternatives were and what the advice was and while that doesn't need to take years to get through, will take some time. Regardless of my own personal views on them, I'm not interested in a few handy scapegoats, who probably won't be the ones most at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Was having a wee look about to see what else was happening outside Coronoa Full list of MPs who voted to lower our food standards during the Covid pandemic Fears as Government promises for post-Brexit food and environmental standards removed from Agriculture Bill. The most important farming legislation in generations passed its third reading in parliament despite warnings that in a bid to make the UK market pliable for a post-Brexit US trade deal, protections of minimum food safety standards have evaporated, as have safeguards for Britain’s farmers. With most MPs still socially distanced at home, MPs passed the legislation’s third reading in a virtual vote – 360 – 211 despite guarantees of a minimum standard to protect British food – and therefor British farming – being absent from the overhaul of UK agriculture. A full list of how they voted in this crucial legislation is below. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/full-list-of-mps-who-voted-to-lower-our-food-standards-during-the-covid-pandemic/26/05/?fbclid=IwAR2g9K8ia0i70q2iuPkGjpjgJWUEFNAd9LmlbNjOcCR-kEKvFW0BwR7YHjo#.Xs4i74AmUqI.facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, phart said: Was having a wee look about to see what else was happening outside Coronoa Full list of MPs who voted to lower our food standards during the Covid pandemic Fears as Government promises for post-Brexit food and environmental standards removed from Agriculture Bill. The most important farming legislation in generations passed its third reading in parliament despite warnings that in a bid to make the UK market pliable for a post-Brexit US trade deal, protections of minimum food safety standards have evaporated, as have safeguards for Britain’s farmers. With most MPs still socially distanced at home, MPs passed the legislation’s third reading in a virtual vote – 360 – 211 despite guarantees of a minimum standard to protect British food – and therefor British farming – being absent from the overhaul of UK agriculture. A full list of how they voted in this crucial legislation is below. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/full-list-of-mps-who-voted-to-lower-our-food-standards-during-the-covid-pandemic/26/05/?fbclid=IwAR2g9K8ia0i70q2iuPkGjpjgJWUEFNAd9LmlbNjOcCR-kEKvFW0BwR7YHjo#.Xs4i74AmUqI.facebook That is actually horrific. Bring on the chlorinated chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, beardy said: That is actually horrific. Bring on the chlorinated chicken. Check this out https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/the-government-is-paying-the-sun-and-daily-mail-for-positive-coverage-of-its-coronavirus-response/28/05/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Ok. So who is to blame for the coronavirus? Lets keep things simple. No long winded excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardy Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, phart said: Check this out https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/the-government-is-paying-the-sun-and-daily-mail-for-positive-coverage-of-its-coronavirus-response/28/05/ This doesn't surprise me, the Twitter bot stuff early in the piece was similar. What I am amazed at is how clunky it is. This is not slick, they get found out easily. Cummings editing his blog a recent example. However it all blows over so quickly, the apathy of the general populous gives them Carte Blanche. The contempt is so blatant but nobody seems to give a fvck. Shit, they haven't even got their claws into Brexit yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 No one expected the Tories to be good guys, but I thought they'd at least be pretty clever about things. They are coming across as both inept and stupid, its sad when Teresa May looks good, is she still an MP, can she come back. Matt Hancock laughing today is ridiculous, theres almost no one who isnt absolutely useless currently. The food standards is shocking, I don't see (I do) why this is so clearly voted on party lines, do none of these people have individual thoughts, morality, even a fucking heart. Its going to get a lot worse as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_McCole Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, kumnio said: Do none of these people have individual thoughts, morality, even a fucking heart. Its going to get a lot worse as well. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Cummings father in law is into eugenics as well, he also has a half white / half black horse called Barack. Crickey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, biffer said: Full article here https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0 Edited May 29, 2020 by Redz Should have read it properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 16 hours ago, kumnio said: Cummings father in law is into eugenics as well, he also has a half white / half black horse called Barack. Crickey. Dom and Boris were fighting the elites though to get Brexit done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) Not to be depressing but is there a hint of an upturn in deaths in UK? I haven't seen it reported...? https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/ Edited May 29, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/29/covid-19-surgisphere-hydroxychloroquine-study-lancet-coronavirus-who-questioned-by-researchers-medical-professionals Sadly it became a political football the moment Trump mentioned it. A lot of the reports I read about it before this happened were from Doctors using in their clinics and they were reporting it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 hours ago, exile said: Not to be depressing but is there a hint of an upturn in deaths in UK? I haven't seen it reported...? https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/ Impact of low number of registrations due to the bank holiday I'd suspect particularly as all other key indicators are declining. Even though the rolling seven day average will smooth daily variations out to an extent it won't remove it completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 hours ago, exile said: Not to be depressing but is there a hint of an upturn in deaths in UK? I haven't seen it reported...? https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/ I saw that too, but too early to tell. I wonder if it's just post-bank-holiday figures catching up. Then I wondered whether Spain just had a holiday too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Got to say its anarchy in Southside of Glasgow. People everywhere. Social distancing not being followed. Loads of youngsters about in groups and drinking outside last night. Why? 2 months lockdown worn people out. Messages from UK & Scot Govt are harder to follow. People will follow strict guidelines but using their own logic? We expect to much from them. WEATHER! Most important. What a past 2 months we have had. SUN SUN SUN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Alan said: Got to say its anarchy in Southside of Glasgow. People everywhere. Social distancing not being followed. Loads of youngsters about in groups and drinking outside last night. Why? 2 months lockdown worn people out. Messages from UK & Scot Govt are harder to follow. People will follow strict guidelines but using their own logic? We expect to much from them. WEATHER! Most important. What a past 2 months we have had. SUN SUN SUN. Agree messages are getting more complicated and the 2 week quarantine on return from holiday is ridiculous. Telling thousands of people to be economically inactive for 14 days on top of their time off is just unbelievable. Wonder if NS backs this policy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Wtf https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-monkeys-escape-with-covid-19-samples-after-attacking-lab-assistant-11996752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, teecee- said: Agree messages are getting more complicated and the 2 week quarantine on return from holiday is ridiculous. Telling thousands of people to be economically inactive for 14 days on top of their time off is just unbelievable. Wonder if NS backs this policy? Don't go abroad on holiday then, its very simple. Given that Nicola Sturgeon has been one of the main people calling for the UKG to bring in this policy, then I think its safe to assume she supports it. Edited May 30, 2020 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, teecee- said: Agree messages are getting more complicated and the 2 week quarantine on return from holiday is ridiculous. Telling thousands of people to be economically inactive for 14 days on top of their time off is just unbelievable. Wonder if NS backs this policy? I would say the fact there had been no quarantine up till now is even more ridiculous. Tens of thousands of people coming in and out the country unchecked for 2 months whilst the rest of us are shackled to our homes. Scorching sunshine and an easing of the rules was always going to be a problem. I imagine the governments are hoping there will still be a larger percentage of the population that will be more conservative in their interpretation of the easing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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