Ally Bongo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I'm not convinced about China at all Japan is at it too IMO because of the Olympics Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) I've seen figures for coronavirus-related deaths as 220 in England 7 in Scotland 5 in Wales 1 in Northern Ireland. From my rough hunch England is proportionately higher and Northern Ireland lower than one might expect from population. Presumably to do with clustering down south and SE England being closer to the continent and N Ireland being more isolated? Since the health/lockdown policies are not much different between these countries? If so there could be case for more lockdown and travel restrictions? Edited March 22, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I'm not convinced about China at all Japan is at it too... Are we allowed to question official releases? (Just asking.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: Are we allowed to question official releases? (Just asking.) Yes but mental conspiracy theorist loonies usually derail everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, exile said: I've seen figures for coronavirus-related deaths as 220 in England 7 in Scotland 5 in Wales 1 in Northern Ireland. From my rough hunch England is proportionately higher and Northern Ireland lower than one might expect from population. Presumably to do with clustering down south and SE England being closer to the continent and N Ireland being more isolated? Since the health/lockdown policies are not much different between these countries? If so there could be case for more lockdown and travel restrictions? Yes England is a far larger travel hub meaning more first exposure to infected people coming in but as it is infectious as fuck it is more reasonable to expect that smaller population density may just take a bit longer to catch up Think the horse bolted a couple of weeks ago regarding travel restrictions but after the fiasco today it's a neccessity in the short term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) https://twitter.com/i/status/1241313715665985536 NEW: Boris Johnson initiated a partial shutdown only after Macron threatened to close the border, warning that the rest of Europe would follow suit. āWe clearly had to threaten him so that he would finally move.ā Edited March 22, 2020 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Yes England is a far larger travel hub meaning more first exposure to infected people coming in but as it is infectious as fuck it is more reasonable to expect that smaller population density may just take a bit longer to catch up Think the horse bolted a couple of weeks ago regarding travel restrictions but after the fiasco today it's a neccessity in the short term The virus is also moving north so it makes sense that England would have it worse than us to begin with.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Close the border š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Close the border š Too late. š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: I'm not convinced about China at all Japan is at it too IMO because of the Olympics Time will tell And there's no word from Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Italians more susceptible for this ?Ā 4 USA family members died - Italian decent https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/new-jersey-coronavirus-family-members-killed/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Some insight into the behind the scenes confusion, chaos and incompetence.... 10 Days That Changed Britain: "Heated" Debate Between Scientists Forced Boris Johnson To Act On Coronavirus A sobering thought that we are in their hands. And that the mainstream media is not holding them to account, or even clarifying what's going on. Edited March 22, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 My missus is a nurse manager in the A+E department of our local hospital in Dublin. She's been working nightshift since Monday. Every day i get an update from her, but talking to her tonight was quite sobering. Said she can see the fear in her colleagues faces. They've already had to make some heartbreaking 'do not resuscitate' decisions that would have otherwise been straightforward if not for the crisis. Said staff morale is on the floor, and some of her colleagues will need counselling when all this is over.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Yes but mental conspiracy theorist loonies usually derail everything Well, stop accepting 'everything'. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave78 said: My missus is a nurse manager in the A+E department of our local hospital in Dublin. She's been working nightshift since Monday. Every day i get an update from her, but talking to her tonight was quite sobering. Said she can see the fear in her colleagues faces. They've already had to make some heartbreaking 'do not resuscitate' decisions that would have otherwise been straightforward if not for the crisis. Said staff morale is on the floor, and some of her colleagues will need counselling when all this is over.Ā God Bless each and every one of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, bonzo said: And there's no word from Russia? It's starting https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/21/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-march-21-a69117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dave78 said: My missus is a nurse manager in the A+E department of our local hospital in Dublin. She's been working nightshift since Monday. Every day i get an update from her, but talking to her tonight was quite sobering. Said she can see the fear in her colleagues faces. They've already had to make some heartbreaking 'do not resuscitate' decisions that would have otherwise been straightforward if not for the crisis. Said staff morale is on the floor, and some of her colleagues will need counselling when all this is over.Ā That must be awful for her, and you, and everyone. At least they have the consolation that everyone - from politicans to public - is doing their best and taking the best advice the world has to offer. I dread to think what will happen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Salut last thirty six ours were massive for cases and deaths in Europe. Italy is ahead on the curve for social multi generational culture and Switzerland is for having their armed, bunkered and tested population. In the uk we have provisions for the privileged with assumption the labour will be done .Ā Ā popcorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave78 said: My missus is a nurse manager in the A+E department of our local hospital in Dublin. She's been working nightshift since Monday. Every day i get an update from her, but talking to her tonight was quite sobering. Said she can see the fear in her colleagues faces. They've already had to make some heartbreaking 'do not resuscitate' decisions that would have otherwise been straightforward if not for the crisis. Said staff morale is on the floor, and some of her colleagues will need counselling when all this is over.Ā From FB Glasgow already seeing the effects - probably why Nicola has been as sombre the last 24 hours Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: From FB Glasgow already seeing the effects - probably why Nicola has been as sombre the last 24 hours Ā Sorry to go off topic but do people call the Underground/subway in Glasgow the "tube"? I've heard it used occasionally (but never ever 'Clockwork Orange') Edited March 22, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 A local pub in my home town defied the orders to close too. People who.messaged the pub were told to fuck off. These types of utter cretins are what will cause martial law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: A local pub in my home town defied the orders to close too. People who.messaged the pub were told to fuck off. These types of utter cretins are what will cause martial law. They should be reported to licencing authorities. I doubt we have theĀ police resources to raid the establishments. I don't think it will be long before we see the army on the streets.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 hours ago, exile said: I've seen figures for coronavirus-related deaths as 220 in England 7 in Scotland 5 in Wales 1 in Northern Ireland. From my rough hunch England is proportionately higher and Northern Ireland lower than one might expect from population. Presumably to do with clustering down south and SE England being closer to the continent and N Ireland being more isolated? Since the health/lockdown policies are not much different between these countries? If so there could be case for more lockdown and travel restrictions? I think that's right...if you split the figures into London/SE & 'everywhere else' you'd have a major imbalance. I can't pin down any stats on deaths by region, but if you assume that it's a rough proportion of cases then something like 75%+ of deaths so far are either in London or areas that are generally commuter zones for London. Of course, that doesn't mean the rest of us aren't a week or two behind, but the population density there must be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I think that, now that pubs, restaurants etc are closed,Ā the most likely place to catch the coronavirus is in a supermarket.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Iām in work now and the other nurses just decided to put on face masks half way through the shift, despite no confirmed cases in the Town, never mind the hospital. Not the best decision when patients start freaking out.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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