macy37 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Squirrelhumper said: Even if 200,000 pensioners die, it'll free up what, £25m a week? It's hardly a masterstroke. Country will be losing more than that daily due to these measures. Yes, but those losses were always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, exile said: Yeah, and some people said "The Govt knows what it's doing, it's following the science" "Don't listen to Twitter hordes" and "Keep Calm and Carry On" (they were literally still saying it to my face, yesterday) More details in that twitter feed. I actually went back and read the 2018 paper on modelling yesterday and compared the data to reality. Conincidentally the paper and real life both had the same starting point for patient 0 here but Covid spread like 3 times quicker. I was speaking to my best mate about it last night who was more skeptical about the risks than i am so just been sending all the tweets to him to show that sounding reasonable at a press conference is no substitute for your data following reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, phart said: These people are morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 This science/policy guy seems to explain well what just happened https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnGnQyoRPyKO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 15 hours ago, TDYER63 said: Do these health supplements actually work ? I completely agree that keeping yourself as healthy as possible is half the battle and taking supplements will do no harm, but do they actually do anything. Anytime I have taken supplements I have felt no difference whatsoever. As a supplement to good nutrition and not as a replacement for good nutrition, yes I think they can be helpful. Vitamin D especially during the winter months in the higher northern hemisphere is a good move. I am not sure the benefits would be perceptible unless you were scurvy level deficient on some. Problems may have manifested and you would not think to link it to a deficiency, it can be subtle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, phart said: Hahahaha, unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: These people are morons. Can only hope these are the kinda of cunts that get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Mox said: What is also blatantly obvious, is how out of his depth Johnsone is, he's absolutely shitting himself. The contrast between Johnson's vague, semi-literate mumblings and our FM's clear, calm information is stark. Johnson is not fit to be a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 hours ago, vanderark14 said: These people are morons. These morons are people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Even if 200,000 pensioners die, it'll free up what, £25m a week? It's hardly a masterstroke. Country will be losing more than that daily due to these measures. And kill 190,000 Tory voters. as much as Boris is a clown, he isn’t this daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Toepoke said: These morons are people? Sadly yes There is no defence for some, if not most, of the loutish behaviour However being stuck in Benidorm on lockdown for over 48 hours it was fucking murder polis The cabin fever was kinda diluted by worrying about getting home and having brains enough to stay 100% sober until we got home I have no idea what my state would have been if i was still there now like some of these folk It is honestly torture and as i said yesterday it was the closest thing to martial law without it actually being martial law You have to be out your accommodation for a reason - groceries, water etc and it's understandable some folk will just say fuck it and look for a release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: Sadly yes There is no defence for some, if not most, of the loutish behaviour However being stuck in Benidorm on lockdown for over 48 hours it was fucking murder polis The cabin fever was kinda diluted by worrying about getting home and having brains enough to stay 100% sober until we got home I have no idea what my state would have been if i was still there now like some of these folk It is honestly torture and as i said yesterday it was the closest thing to martial law without it actually being martial law You have to be out your accommodation for a reason - groceries, water etc and it's understandable some folk will just say fuck it and look for a release Just spoke to my parents in France there. Full on lockdown now. If you want to go outside the house, you have to download and print a form. You have to fill in the reason you're outside (going to buy food, for example). If you don't have the correct paperwork, the police will fine you. My Dad lives across the road from a hotel that was used by the Gestapo during the war. He was joking about it being 1940 all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dave78 said: Just spoke to my parents in France there. Full on lockdown now. If you want to go outside the house, you have to download and print a form. You have to fill in the reason you're outside (going to buy food, for example). If you don't have the correct paperwork, the police will fine you. My Dad lives across the road from a hotel that was used by the Gestapo during the war. He was joking about it being 1940 all over again. What if you don't have a printer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Squirrelhumper said: What if you don't have a printer? Good question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Self-certify that you’re exempt from self-isolation....... by order of ...... yersel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, ger intae them said: Self-certify that you’re exempt from self-isolation....... by order of ...... yersel! Aye. The French love their bureaucracy though. I think this is just about hammering the message home. I doubt many people will actually get fined (well, apart from folk like that swimmer in Ally's video). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 This might be a generalisation but it seems to follow some sort of trend. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-win-for-gen-x-boomers-gave-us-latchkey-childhoods-that-prepped-us-for-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-03-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 How ironic asking elderly folk to stay in but they must now buy a TV licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 The government have delayed implementing that until this is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, jailender said: The government have delayed implementing that until this is over. To be correct, its the BBC that's not implementing it, not the government. They're taking the hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Italy somewhat plateauing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, phart said: Tartan Army guy at 0:25? Edited March 17, 2020 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) On 3/13/2020 at 11:00 PM, thplinth said: Italy seems a bit delayed in posting their numbers for good reason. But... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 2500+ new cases and 250 new deaths in the last day. ooft. Overall 10,000 new cases and 442 new deaths in the last day. 10,000 new cases took a long time to get to not that long ago. Now it is one day. What will it be like in a month. Quoting the above for comparison... Italy 3,526 new cases and 345 new deaths in the last day Overall 14,737 new cases (and it is early still 8pm GMT) and 800 new deaths. Check out the curves on the graph (link above)... they are steepening again. 407 new cases in UK and 16 new deaths. Boris' approach means he undoubtedly has and is going to have a lot of these deaths on his hands that could have been avoided. Should surpass 200,000 cases before the end of the day. Edited March 17, 2020 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Hate to say it but I expect the internet to go down at some point. The sheer demand on it with everyone bored out their nut at home must be extraordinary right now. If that happens ooooh man. Communities and family used to be the societal glue that held shit together... now it is the internet. If it goes off I would expect a bit of a melt down. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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