davierobbsagod Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The Donald has done me in...was due to fly out to Texas on wed , one of the kids flew out from Aberdeen to Geneva this morning he said the flight was rammed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Huddersfield said: I found that a bit odd. Some of those clubs pull crowds of a couple of thousand or more in some pretty small grounds. The crowd density in terms of number of people in 2-3m must be the same as a lot of other games. That's where I was, crowd of 1600. Lost 2-1, should've had a penalty, ref was shite. Was speaking to our chairman after the game and general consensus is that the season is finished now and the FA are working on possible solutions to unpick everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Anyone have any theories as to how long any lockdown would have to last to be effective? Personally I'm trying to keep any movement out and about to a minimum at the moment ahead of the inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Italian update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) The nuanced plan. Exposure to the four endemic coronaviruses produces immunity that lasts longer than that to influenza, [Richard Webby, an influenza expert at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital] said, but not permanent immunity. Like respiratory syncytial virus, which can re-infect adults who had it in childhood, coronavirus immunity wanes. “Everyone, by the time they reach adulthood, should have some immunity to some coronavirus,” said Tim Sheahan, a coronavirus researcher at University of North Carolina’s Gillings School of Global Public Health. But because it doesn’t last, older people can get reinfected. The elderly also have a higher death rate from coronaviruses such as SARS and MERS, a pattern 2019-nCoV is following. “There is some evidence that people can be reinfected with the four coronaviruses and that there is no long-lasting immunity,” Dr. Susan Kline, an infectious disease specialist at of the University of Minnesota. “Like rhinoviruses [which cause the common cold], you could be infected multiple times over your life. You can mount an antibody response, but it wanes, so on subsequent exposure you don’t have protection.” Subsequent infections often produce milder illness, however. A woman working as a tour bus guide was reinfected with the coronavirus, testing positive after having recovered from an earlier infection, Osaka’s prefectural government said. Her case, the first known of in Japan, highlighted how much is still unknown about the virus even as concerns grow about its global spread. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-japan/japanese-woman-confirmed-as-coronavirus-case-for-2nd-time-weeks-after-initial-recovery-idUSKCN20L0BI?fbclid=IwAR3bo3Jj1MYuU1Tq7ByP3VVjFWZzm3Quuv3NhWf2_FSMuEPqYOjO6zlofeQ Edited March 14, 2020 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunkyboy and the fluffer Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Advice issued by the company I work for is more than laughable and this is a major European company. If you think you have it report to work put yourself in a empty meeting room and have a call with occupational health and NHS direct using your own phone and then await further direction. Also if you have to self isolate due to your someone in your house having covid you are required to give proof they have it even though the testing phase is over. I genuinely thought all companies would have to follow government advice on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, phart said: The nuanced plan. Exposure to the four endemic coronaviruses produces immunity that lasts longer than that to influenza, [Richard Webby, an influenza expert at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital] said, but not permanent immunity. Like respiratory syncytial virus, which can re-infect adults who had it in childhood, coronavirus immunity wanes. “Everyone, by the time they reach adulthood, should have some immunity to some coronavirus,” said Tim Sheahan, a coronavirus researcher at University of North Carolina’s Gillings School of Global Public Health. But because it doesn’t last, older people can get reinfected. The elderly also have a higher death rate from coronaviruses such as SARS and MERS, a pattern 2019-nCoV is following. “There is some evidence that people can be reinfected with the four coronaviruses and that there is no long-lasting immunity,” Dr. Susan Kline, an infectious disease specialist at of the University of Minnesota. “Like rhinoviruses [which cause the common cold], you could be infected multiple times over your life. You can mount an antibody response, but it wanes, so on subsequent exposure you don’t have protection.” Subsequent infections often produce milder illness, however. A woman working as a tour bus guide was reinfected with the coronavirus, testing positive after having recovered from an earlier infection, Osaka’s prefectural government said. Her case, the first known of in Japan, highlighted how much is still unknown about the virus even as concerns grow about its global spread. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-japan/japanese-woman-confirmed-as-coronavirus-case-for-2nd-time-weeks-after-initial-recovery-idUSKCN20L0BI?fbclid=IwAR3bo3Jj1MYuU1Tq7ByP3VVjFWZzm3Quuv3NhWf2_FSMuEPqYOjO6zlofeQ You’re a bit obsessed about this old Coronavirus, phart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Toepoke said: Very good,🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dohadeer said: You’re a bit obsessed about this old Coronavirus, phart. You've made 17 posts in this thread i have made 7, in the last 36 hours. Edited March 14, 2020 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, dohadeer said: You’re a bit obsessed about this old Coronavirus, phart. Says the poster obsessed with other people’s holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, ParisInAKilt said: Says the poster obsessed with other people’s holidays ? How do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Two things - no one will be flying anywhere in a weeks time - so plan for that. Second, the "herd Immunity" thing is utter rubbish and does not apply here - it's also a dangerous experiment and will cost lives. The Scottish Gov will bear as much responsibility for this as the UK one - they need to shut down to the same level as Ireland at the very least right now. https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/coronavirus-who-government-uk-strategy-17924466 https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/junk-science-week-vaccinating-the-herd https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237385-why-is-the-uk-approach-to-coronavirus-so-different-to-other-countries/ https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/uk-herd-immunity-coronavirus-who-margaret-harris-a4387346.html Edited March 14, 2020 by Lobey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Interesting graph this. Shows the value of widespread testing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just to add - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on_coronavirus_measures.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, dohadeer said: ? How do you mean? Contestant number 2, contestant number 3, ring a bell does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, dohadeer said: You’re a bit obsessed about this old Coronavirus, phart. Says the poster who is obsessed about having conversations with himself. Thought you were going to disappear? And no more PMs this time please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Farcity said: Says the poster who is obsessed about having conversations with himself. Thought you were going to disappear? And no more PMs this time please. Conversations with myself? Which other forum member are you accusing me of being? Based on what evidence? That’s a really strange thing to accuse someone of, unless you have some reasoning behind what you’re saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 You are boring. Very boring and as sad as fuck. Now off you pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, Farcity said: You are boring. Very boring and as sad as fuck. Now off you pop. Answer me please. I promise you that I have had this one account for fifteen years on here, and no other accounts. I have no reason to have any other accounts. If you could explain why you think that, then I could maybe try and defend myself, but I promise you that you have got the wrong end of the stick. There are people debating on here every day, I’m really confused as to which account(s) you think I am aligned with, and why out of all the debates going on on this forum, something in one of my debates made you think ‘that’s one person ‘debating’ with themself, and pretending to be two different people.’ What on Earth made you come to that conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Lobey said: Just to add - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia/UK_scientists_statement_on_coronavirus_measures.pdf Just for emphasis, the first of these says "Hundreds of scientists have written to the government urging them to introduce tougher measures to tackle the spread of Covid-19. In an open letter, a group of 229 scientists from UK universities say the government's current approach will put the NHS under additional stress and "risk many more lives than necessary". Surely this seriously quesitions the UK Govt's so called scientific approach? Does anyone actually trust the British Govt on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Looks like I've been talking shite again. Never had 229 scientists call me out before. I thought/hoped gov had done something right for once, but am reading that the herd immunity stuff might be bollox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) it's based on computer simulation but it's only as good as the data for the models which is negligible. It also only works if everyone conforms to it, as a society i've yet to visit a supermarket where everyone put the trolleys back properly let alone manages to follow quarantine protocols properly. I'm sure it works if everything falls into place with regards to whatever was inputted into the models. The models havem't even been peer reviewed although they say they will be released. Edited March 15, 2020 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 3 hours ago, dohadeer said: Answer me please. I promise you that I have had this one account for fifteen years on here, and no other accounts. I have no reason to have any other accounts. If you could explain why you think that, then I could maybe try and defend myself, but I promise you that you have got the wrong end of the stick. There are people debating on here every day, I’m really confused as to which account(s) you think I am aligned with, and why out of all the debates going on on this forum, something in one of my debates made you think ‘that’s one person ‘debating’ with themself, and pretending to be two different people.’ What on Earth made you come to that conclusion? Well, that's not true. You're well aware that some people have a suspicion you're Chripper/TDK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dave78 said: Well, that's not true. You're well aware that some people have a suspicion you're Chripper/TDK. When the apocalypse comes, right up to the last minute there'll still be 2 cunts bickering on the TAMB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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