Huddersfield Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, exile said: Hope you are coping. But it could be worse, imagine in the old days, no TAMB, no YouTube... At the moment it just feels normal but my wife is packing her bags & moving out over the weekend. I’m going to find it hard to cope without the great love of my life...I’d hoped to get to the Wigan game on Saturday but that’s not going to happen now. Hard times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, phart said: New Italian figures 1 in 15 death rate As a comparison regular flu is around 1 in 1000... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just think Cheltenham, football, concerts etc all held this week too. There will be more people who have this than registered. We'll see in two weeks, but I think the British government's inaction over this has been shocking. Governed by an absolute bunch of diddles (a bit like the US) who stil think they rule the waves, when in reality they are both fading star's who peaked and won't ever reach the lofty heights again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 10:01 PM, Grim Jim said: To my ignorant eyes, we are attempting to slow (to one degree or another) the rate of spread. Is that to reduce the load on hospitals or will the virus peter out if slowed? How does this pan out long term? I think the answer is about critical capacity - as I understand it, to put it bluntly: if there is a huge sudden peak more people will die overall. So the solution is "flattening the curve" - see thplinth's chart on page 14, and explained in more detail here https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation This is why Nicola Sturgeon was talking today about the need to ensure there was enough health/public service capacity, by reducing demand and boosing supply James Kelly also has a blog post on a related theme today: https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2020/03/how-government-are-playing-russian.html?showComment=1584039021381#c2898376781879564736 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Aye, you seem like a loner. Because I’m not in my 50’s or have old parents at risk of dying? Right you are then. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Kirk said: Lucky you, extra hols isnt bad. Under normal circumstances, for sure - Although I only mentioned our school's update to endorse your point In reality we're due to fly out for a family holiday, that includes the Masters at Augusta, on April 1st - That's looking highly unlikely now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Huddersfield said: At the moment it just feels normal but my wife is packing her bags & moving out over the weekend. I’m going to find it hard to cope without the great love of my life...I’d hoped to get to the Wigan game on Saturday but that’s not going to happen now. Hard times. Sorry didn't realise about the wife. That seems harsh. Tough times indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, irnbruman said: Boris Johnson just said at his coronavirus public address that "Scottish public services were less resilient" - this seemed to be in relation to Nicola Sturgeon seeking a possible ban on public gatherings. No-one from the media pressed him on this. Strange. Nobody pressed him because they wont get access if they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, exile said: Sorry didn't realise about the wife. That seems harsh. Tough times indeed. I never said that was anything to do with the virus 😁 She's in an awful position to be fair...either stay in isolation with me & not be able to help her parents or see the grandkids, or leave me here. Coming & going isn't really an option any more, so she's dumping me at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: 1 in 15 death rate As a comparison regular flu is around 1 in 1000... My daughters friend has been teaching in Bergamo in Italy since last summer. Her boyfriend went skiing a couple of weeks ago in a different part of Italy and he cant go back to Bergamo just now, it is really bad there. Police are patrolling the streets to ensure people are adhering to the self isolation. When you go to a supermarket it needs to be arranged and there is a strict distance between everyone in the queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Huddersfield said: At the moment it just feels normal but my wife is packing her bags & moving out over the weekend. I’m going to find it hard to cope without the great love of my life...I’d hoped to get to the Wigan game on Saturday but that’s not going to happen now. Hard times. Really sorry to hear this Huddersfield. I am sure it will all be worth it and hopefully will not be long before she is back. ❤️ At least you have us to cheer you up ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, macy37 said: Because I’m not in my 50’s or have old parents at risk of dying? Right you are then. 😂 It is probably more to do with you wishing old folk would die to boost the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Really sorry to hear this Huddersfield. I am sure it will all be worth it and hopefully will not be long before she is back. ❤️ At least you have us to cheer you up ..... Haha...thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, thplinth said: It is probably more to do with you wishing old folk would die to boost the economy. That makes me a loner? Right you are too. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Fucked if I know, you'd have to ask the humper of squirrels. I think he saying you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself because you are by yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 So here we go. My 2 sons schools have now cancelled classes for 3 weeks, Provincial decision by the premier. Fair enough. My youngest son is in a hockey tournament this weekend in Kingston, 2 hours from Ottawa. My wife does not want to go now, I dont blame her. It's a big tournament. So my wife called the hotel to cancel, which you have 24 hours before to do so. Now the hotel is saying it needed 48 hours and wont refund us.. What a load of shite. We are not the only parents to cancel. I think the hotels are feeling the backlash from this Corona thing. Anyhoo, I'm not paying £150 for a room in a hotel when the world has gone bat shit crazy over this virus.. Anyone else having a similar problem.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Arteta know has the virus,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: So here we go. My 2 sons schools have now cancelled classes for 3 weeks, Provincial decision by the premier. Fair enough. My youngest son is in a hockey tournament this weekend in Kingston, 2 hours from Ottawa. My wife does not want to go now, I dont blame her. It's a big tournament. So my wife called the hotel to cancel, which you have 24 hours before to do so. Now the hotel is saying it needed 48 hours and wont refund us.. What a load of shite. We are not the only parents to cancel. I think the hotels are feeling the backlash from this Corona thing. Anyhoo, I'm not paying £150 for a room in a hotel when the world has gone bat shit crazy over this virus.. Anyone else having a similar problem.... Yes. Most of the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, exile said: I think the answer is about critical capacity - as I understand it, to put it bluntly: if there is a huge sudden peak more people will die overall. So the solution is "flattening the curve" - see thplinth's chart on page 14, and explained in more detail here https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation This is why Nicola Sturgeon was talking today about the need to ensure there was enough health/public service capacity, by reducing demand and boosing supply James Kelly also has a blog post on a related theme today: https://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2020/03/how-government-are-playing-russian.html?showComment=1584039021381#c2898376781879564736 Yeah, I did see thplinth's post earlier today, thank you both. So to me, most of us are going to get it, but we're hoping to slow the time-to-spread so NHS can cope better. Still to read the Kelly blog, but in the meantime I do like the boosing supply idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Too slow to edit... Yeah, I did see thplinth's post earlier today, thank you both. So to me, most of us are going to get it, but we're hoping to slow the time-to-spread so NHS can cope better. Still to read the Kelly blog, but in the meantime I do like the boosing supply idea... Update: OK James Kelly doesn't quite buy into this and believes it can be contained. I'm not convinced (expert that I am not) on this occasion. We're saying then that every time this happens we can snuff it out with actions drastic enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) A radical response is available and affordable. If less than half of the funds used to bail out the bankers out of public monies in 2008 was given to the public then every adult and child in the uk could be afforded £3,000 per adult and £1,500 per child for an initial month lock down *. This would satisfy most needs . It won’t happen as our government does not function to the benefit or protection of the population. That is our reality. Let’s see how the Cheltenham Festival goes and they have their meeting at gchq Edited March 12, 2020 by Shaundy *control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 saw this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, phart said: saw this. Wait... does this mean global warming is going to save the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Italy is a worry. Check out the death rate of the Closed Cases versus the overall number of closed cases. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I had been expecting it to fall down a bit by now to the overall death rate. The overall death rate is still horrific at 7% but Italy now have over 2000 closed cases and of those 45% are closed because the person died. It is possible the virus takes out the vulnerable quickly but still... Edited March 13, 2020 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, thplinth said: Italy is a worry. Check out the death rate of the Closed Cases versus the overall number of closed cases. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I had been expecting it to fall down a bit by now to the overall death rate. The overall death rate is still horrific at 7% but Italy now have over 2000 closed cases and of those 45% are closed because the person died. It is possible the virus takes out the vulnerable quickly but still... Italy has twice the number of ICU facilities that the UK has per 1000 of population as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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