Historical games/teams

[Big Ramy 1314]

4 minutes ago, aaid said:

No idea, it was East Stirling that played there, not Falkirk as it says on the video.

Oh ok, my mistake. Cheers..

[Huddersfield]

20 hours ago, Big Ramy 1314 said:

 

Brilliant video. I’ve been to a fair few of those. It’s a shame Donny isn’t still around. Belle Vue was a cracking old school ground. Up until the 90s maybe there was an airfield right behind the open away end. You’d regularly see folk in there ducking as you felt like they were coming straight at you at times.

[Big Ramy 1314]

2 hours ago, Huddersfield said:

Brilliant video. I’ve been to a fair few of those. It’s a shame Donny isn’t still around. Belle Vue was a cracking old school ground. Up until the 90s maybe there was an airfield right behind the open away end. You’d regularly see folk in there ducking as you felt like they were coming straight at you at times.

Yae mate. Just watchin some football videos on u tube and came across this. I love the old grounds, or just football grounds in general. Whenever I am over I like to drive by any grounds that are on my drive wherever I am going that day. I dont care if it is division 4 or the premier league. The exception is ibrox of course, no need to go anywhere near that fuckin shithole..

[Grim Jim]

First time I've seen a roundabout on a runway too!

[Huddersfield]

34 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said:

Yae mate. Just watchin some football videos on u tube and came across this. I love the old grounds, or just football grounds in general. Whenever I am over I like to drive by any grounds that are on my drive wherever I am going that day. I dont care if it is division 4 or the premier league. The exception is ibrox of course, no need to go anywhere near that fuckin shithole..

Another oddity about that ground, from memory anyway & I stand to be corrected, is that I think it was the largest pitch in England/maybe Britain? The photo is an odd one, probably a bit of an optical illusion as it looks like it runs left to right, but in fact the away end is behind a goal in the foreground, which you can see if you zoom in. 

[Cove_Sheep]

3 hours ago, Big Ramy 1314 said:

Oh ok, my mistake. Cheers..

Wikipedia says Firs Park was demolished in 2012.

Falkirk's old ground was Brockville.

[dan cake]

14 minutes ago, Cove_Sheep said:

Falkirk's old ground was Brockville.

An absolute dump but still 100 time’s better than their new stadium, add St Johnstone and Hamilton to that list. 

[aaid]

11 hours ago, dan cake said:

An absolute dump but still 100 time’s better than their new stadium, add St Johnstone and Hamilton to that list. 

The toilets in the away end were like the black hole of Calcutta. 

[Jon Cutler]

20 hours ago, Cove_Sheep said:

Wikipedia says Firs Park was demolished in 2012.

Falkirk's old ground was Brockville.

Firs Park is still there, all be it an overgrown tragic wasteland, stand and enclosure were demolished. Brockville is now a Morrisons.

https://www.footballgroundmap.com/ground/firs-park/east-stirlingshire

Main stand pic on link is from Fergie era, with SRPS railway yard behind, yard is now retail park.

[Lairdyfaeinverclyde]

Kilbowie Park. To avoid having to apply legislation affecting stadium safety, the club installed wooden benches that reduced the capacity to 9,950. This was below the 10,000 limit at which the legislation started to apply and technically made Kilbowie the first all-seater stadium in the United Kingdom. Junior team now.

 

[WCTA]

19 hours ago, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said:

Kilbowie Park. To avoid having to apply legislation affecting stadium safety, the club installed wooden benches that reduced the capacity to 9,950. This was below the 10,000 limit at which the legislation started to apply and technically made Kilbowie the first all-seater stadium in the United Kingdom. Junior team now.

 

I mind a lot of Aberdeen fans used to claim this. Then Saints came next in the UK with the first all purpose seated stadium. A seat for each backside. 

[Rolling hIlls]

On 1/24/2020 at 8:32 PM, Big Ramy 1314 said:

Yae mate. Just watchin some football videos on u tube and came across this. I love the old grounds, or just football grounds in general. Whenever I am over I like to drive by any grounds that are on my drive wherever I am going that day. I dont care if it is division 4 or the premier league. The exception is ibrox of course, no need to go anywhere near that fuckin shithole..

That's a bit bitter.  I have visited the piggery many times.  Rangers and Scotland games.  But I am not bitter. x

[Big Ramy 1314]

4 minutes ago, Rolling hIlls said:

That's a bit bitter.  I have visited the piggery many times.  Rangers and Scotland games.  But I am not bitter. x

So you just called Celtic Park the "Piggery" , but you are not bitter. Aye ok then...😳

[daviebee]

18 minutes ago, WCTA said:

I mind a lot of Aberdeen fans used to claim this. Then Saints came next in the UK with the first all purpose seated stadium. A seat for each backside. 

In the case of the Saints it's more like 10 seats for every backside!

[Rolling hIlls]

5 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said:

So you just called Celtic Park the "Piggery" , but you are not bitter. Aye ok then...😳

Sorry, I thought that was what it was called. You started it.  Or was it a big guy that did it and ran away?

[WCTA]

26 minutes ago, daviebee said:

In the case of the Saints it's more like 10 seats for every backside!

Top top banter. Of course, if you had any idea about the size of Perth you’d know that there are many many more worse supported clubs in Scotland. 🙄

The likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, etc. These are all worse supported clubs than Saints. 

Edited January 26, 2020 by WCTA

[dandydunn]

19 hours ago, WCTA said:

Top top banter. Of course, if you had any idea about the size of Perth you’d know that there are many many more worse supported clubs in Scotland. 🙄

The likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, etc. These are all worse supported clubs than Saints. 

That’s true and it’s not in our case. Although Aberdeen is a large city, it’s this big because of all the people that have moved here for the oil industry, who have their own football teams or don’t know a thing about the game. That’s without taking in the fans of the bigot brothers who leave Aberdeen by the bus load every weekend and the ones that couldn’t find parkhead or Ibrox on a map of the London road/edmiston drive. 
 

If I was to move to London to work and live, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be going to watch another team close to me every week, when my own team are playing about an hour away on a flight. 
 

The population is estimated to be just shy of 250,000. 
 

So in conclusion, fuck off you yank, you’re as much to blame as anyone you dirty immigrant. 
 

Edit: I misspelled yank, but decided to be nice and keep it like that.......

Edited January 27, 2020 by dandydunn

[aaid]

1 hour ago, dandydunn said:

That’s true and it’s not in our case. Although Aberdeen is a large city, it’s this big because of all the people that have moved here for the oil industry, who have their own football teams or don’t know a thing about the game. That’s without taking in the fans of the bigot brothers who leave Aberdeen by the bus load every weekend and the ones that couldn’t find parkhead or Ibrox on a map of the London road/edmiston drive. 
 

The population is estimated to be just shy of 250,000.   
 

 

That's the sort of thing that sounds like its true but in reality it isn't - or at least it's not as significant as you are making out.

Aberdeen's population is estimated to be about 225,000.   In 1971 before oil exploration started it was 195,000.   The population didn't increase markedly until 1991 when it was up to 205,000.   Over the last 20 years the population of Aberdeen has increased by 5.5% which is lower than the national average of 7.1% over the same period.   Compared to Scotland overall, there's a spike in a 20 year period between 1981 and 2001 but that's it.

Those are net figures and so don't take account of births and deaths - which largely balance each other out - and there will also be people leaving, so the number of new residents will be higher than the increase in population.    Aberdeen - like most big cities - has a high transient population most notably students which has also grown over the last 50 years or so.

I'd say the impact on the oil industry as far as demographics was concerned was that there would be an influx of specialist workers, from around the world, the USA being most obvious, that "native" Aberdonians working in the oil industry would stem outward migration that you see in the rest of Scotland as there would be plenty of good well paid jobs and then you have a large number of offshore workers who live all over the UK and who are only in Aberdeen to get on or off a helicopter.

Funnily enough, this jump in population also coincided with the team's glory days when Aberdeen struggled to sell out Pittodrie on a regular basis, the capacity at that time was 23,000 IIRC.  Funnily enough the only league games that seemed to sell out were against the old firm or occasionally Dundee Utd.

 

[WCTA]

3 hours ago, dandydunn said:

That’s true and it’s not in our case. Although Aberdeen is a large city, it’s this big because of all the people that have moved here for the oil industry, who have their own football teams or don’t know a thing about the game. That’s without taking in the fans of the bigot brothers who leave Aberdeen by the bus load every weekend and the ones that couldn’t find parkhead or Ibrox on a map of the London road/edmiston drive. 
 

If I was to move to London to work and live, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be going to watch another team close to me every week, when my own team are playing about an hour away on a flight. 
 

The population is estimated to be just shy of 250,000. 
 

So in conclusion, fuck off you yank, you’re as much to blame as anyone you dirty immigrant. 
 

Edit: I misspelled yank, but decided to be nice and keep it like that.......

You think Perth is just original Perthites? Half our city are English immigrant Tory cunts. All moved up to take advantage of Perth firstly being a beautiful city but secondly and more importantly a place that sits in the middle of our four biggest cities which are great for commuters who need them for daily work. Aberdeen is not exclusive to what you have said.

 

Edit: Ye can take yer luminous shitey trainers and cram them up yer hoop. 😊

Edited January 27, 2020 by WCTA

[dandydunn]

2 hours ago, WCTA said:

You think Perth is just original Perthites? Half our city are English immigrant Tory cunts. All moved up to take advantage of Perth firstly being a beautiful city but secondly and more importantly a place that sits in the middle of our four biggest cities which are great for commuters who need them for daily work. Aberdeen is not exclusive to what you have said.

 

Edit: Ye can take yer luminous shitey trainers and cram them up yer hoop. 😊

I’m not arguing with you about it, just saying my tuppence worth, so leave the trainers out of it, aright...... they’ve done nothing to harm you. 

[WCTA]

Just now, dandydunn said:

I’m not arguing with you about it, just saying my tuppence worth, so leave the trainers out of it, aright...... they’ve done nothing to harm you. 

You’re going the right way for a pint wae Ramy.... 😎

[dandydunn]

3 hours ago, aaid said:

That's the sort of thing that sounds like its true but in reality it isn't - or at least it's not as significant as you are making out.

Aberdeen's population is estimated to be about 225,000.   In 1971 before oil exploration started it was 195,000.   The population didn't increase markedly until 1991 when it was up to 205,000.   Over the last 20 years the population of Aberdeen has increased by 5.5% which is lower than the national average of 7.1% over the same period.   Compared to Scotland overall, there's a spike in a 20 year period between 1981 and 2001 but that's it.

Those are net figures and so don't take account of births and deaths - which largely balance each other out - and there will also be people leaving, so the number of new residents will be higher than the increase in population.    Aberdeen - like most big cities - has a high transient population most notably students which has also grown over the last 50 years or so.

I'd say the impact on the oil industry as far as demographics was concerned was that there would be an influx of specialist workers, from around the world, the USA being most obvious, that "native" Aberdonians working in the oil industry would stem outward migration that you see in the rest of Scotland as there would be plenty of good well paid jobs and then you have a large number of offshore workers who live all over the UK and who are only in Aberdeen to get on or off a helicopter.

Funnily enough, this jump in population also coincided with the team's glory days when Aberdeen struggled to sell out Pittodrie on a regular basis, the capacity at that time was 23,000 IIRC.  Funnily enough the only league games that seemed to sell out were against the old firm or occasionally Dundee Utd.

 

From all of that, we could probably agree that Aberdeen’s crowds have stayed consistent throughout good and bad periods. It’s very true that a team that good in the 80’s very rarely sold out. Was it because people didn’t/don’t have disposable income for it, or is it that Aberdeen just isn’t as big a football city as we want it to be?

[Big Ramy 1314]

 

[Big Ramy 1314]

 

[Auchinyell Sox Change]

On 1/27/2020 at 4:35 AM, aaid said:

That's the sort of thing that sounds like its true but in reality it isn't - or at least it's not as significant as you are making out.

Aberdeen's population is estimated to be about 225,000.   In 1971 before oil exploration started it was 195,000.   The population didn't increase markedly until 1991 when it was up to 205,000.   Over the last 20 years the population of Aberdeen has increased by 5.5% which is lower than the national average of 7.1% over the same period.   Compared to Scotland overall, there's a spike in a 20 year period between 1981 and 2001 but that's it.

Those are net figures and so don't take account of births and deaths - which largely balance each other out - and there will also be people leaving, so the number of new residents will be higher than the increase in population.    Aberdeen - like most big cities - has a high transient population most notably students which has also grown over the last 50 years or so.

I'd say the impact on the oil industry as far as demographics was concerned was that there would be an influx of specialist workers, from around the world, the USA being most obvious, that "native" Aberdonians working in the oil industry would stem outward migration that you see in the rest of Scotland as there would be plenty of good well paid jobs and then you have a large number of offshore workers who live all over the UK and who are only in Aberdeen to get on or off a helicopter.

Funnily enough, this jump in population also coincided with the team's glory days when Aberdeen struggled to sell out Pittodrie on a regular basis, the capacity at that time was 23,000 IIRC.  Funnily enough the only league games that seemed to sell out were against the old firm or occasionally Dundee Utd.

 

24,000 - sold out for random xmas and new years games too , and european games

depends what you mean exactly by glory days tho - in SAFs last few seasons - i recall he bemoaned the fact that 18k -ish showed up to see EC quarter final v Gothenburg (we got 20k v dinamo berlin in a lesser competition / round few seasons earlier) suspect having paul wright playing up front had a lot to do with folks apathy - by end of his tenure , we were getting horsed away to Sion and his final signing of davie dodds suspect may have been a practical joke

we were getting close to 20k for lot of games in those championship winning seasons - hearts & hibs always brought decent supports too - part of the issue tho too back then was away fans were given the whole of cavernous beach end ; sometimes home fans were allowed (the left side) centre was no mans land - a classic example was scottish cup replay v hearts (1-0 Stark) on wed after sat draw at tynecastle (Clark - Black i think 1-1) - no tickets printed an mental pay at the gate crowd - thinking 28,0000 ish....hearts were in one section i think , maybe 2 , and home fans were in other with minimum separation ; lots of standing in south stand , paddock etc = was similar situation few years later at boxing day game v hibs - this time tho was lock outs ; ditto inverness years later

btw first job in 83 - oil and gas office - some 50 folk , me and receptionist  - only locals - only me ever went to the games.........