Super_Scotlandfan Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 If the season progresses how it has been and our striker choices remain the same would you start Fletcher in the play-offs? This is assuming the options remain as they are i.e. McBurnie remains bit part at Sheffield United, as does Griffiths at Celtic and Naismith is fit and playing for Hearts. He's scoring goals and has been important to us in the past. I think I'd struggle to say no considering our limited options but it sends a poor message to the rest of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Wouldn’t start him but would have him in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Would have him in the squad also . Not sure what his situation is with Scotland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeTA Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Hes had a strange career for scotland. Never know whats happening with him! Hes still good enough for a place in the squad but whether he wants it, its a different matter. Id start naismith ahead of him if it was a choice between the 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Griffiths, naismith and Fletcher in the play off squads would be not bad at all. We will see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 He's no interest Otherwise he would already have made himself available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Truthfully the only player I'd asks if they'd be available for the playoffs is Allan McGregor. Fletcher is slightly better than what we have but Naismith has formed a nice partnership with McGinn and Christie and his style suits them. If Naismith gets another injury then we may need Fletcher but everyone fit then I'm on the fence. Brown is still a quality player and has a will to win but I'd say him being the squad, doesn't make much of a quality difference with everyone fit. A few injuries and I'd probably be giving him a call though. McGregor is the only one that is a massive, massive jump in quality to what we have. Would be shite on Marshall but considering this is our best chance at qualifying for atleast 3/4 years, we probably need to put sentiment and loyalty aside for a better player. Let's be honest here while we missed chances in the nation's league game, it was a couple world class saves (that Marshall isn't really capable of) that got us over the line. With how poor defence is, I genuinely worry what happens when they likes of Haaland, Odengaard and King come up against our defence. They will have chances due to their attacking quality. From what I've seen of Marshall recently he is an average mid table championship keeper. He isn't going to produce game saving saves, McGregor can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: Truthfully the only player I'd asks if they'd be available for the playoffs is Allan McGregor. Fletcher is slightly better than what we have but Naismith has formed a nice partnership with McGinn and Christie and his style suits them. If Naismith gets another injury then we may need Fletcher but everyone fit then I'm on the fence. Brown is still a quality player and has a will to win but I'd say him being the squad, doesn't make much of a quality difference with everyone fit. A few injuries and I'd probably be giving him a call though. McGregor is the only one that is a massive, massive jump in quality to what we have. Would be shite on Marshall but considering this is our best chance at qualifying for atleast 3/4 years, we probably need to put sentiment and loyalty aside for a better player. Let's be honest here while we missed chances in the nation's league game, it was a couple world class saves (that Marshall isn't really capable of) that got us over the line. With how poor defence is, I genuinely worry what happens when they likes of Haaland, Odengaard and King come up against our defence. They will have chances due to their attacking quality. From what I've seen of Marshall recently he is an average mid table championship keeper. He isn't going to produce game saving saves, McGregor can. I disagree. If you have retired then you can eff off in my opinion. Every player knew we had these play offs coming up. It's not like it's a shock to anyone we are 2 games away from the euros. We've known for a while now. You cant just pick and choose what tournament you want to play in. We have a bit of momentum now with the players we have. If you've officially retired from international football then there is no way back in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo cop Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Has he actually came out and said he is not available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Bino's said: He's no interest Otherwise he would already have made himself available Has he made himself unavailable? He’s definitely a better player than McBurnie as he can actually control and pass a ball. I’d have him in the squad definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Hell no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Hell no Is the correct answer. Like anyone else who deserted or reigns injury, they should told to get fecked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Has he made himself unavailable? He’s definitely a better player than McBurnie as he can actually control and pass a ball. I’d have him in the squad definitely. He gave it the “I’ll need to speak with Clarke and see what his plans are, I’m in my 30’s and now injury free and don’t want to jeopardise that blah blah blah” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: Has he made himself unavailable? He’s definitely a better player than McBurnie as he can actually control and pass a ball. I’d have him in the squad definitely. If he was available He would be in the squads He's obviously not available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: He gave it the “I’ll need to speak with Clarke and see what his plans are, I’m in my 30’s and now injury free and don’t want to jeopardise that blah blah blah” If he was completely unavailable he’d come out as say he’s retired. There’s an interview with Liam Palmer in October saying he reckons that Fletcher would make himself available for a major tournament. Maybe these games would convince him? For me it’s a 100% no if he wanted to play in the finals only after watching his team mates get there. But I’d consider him if he wants to play in March. If I were Clarke I’d say to all of the players that ‘have made them selves unavailable’/retired that they won’t be picked for the finals unless they make themselves available for these games too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Theres been a few suggestion on here regarding players like fletcher and whether we would want them back for the finals if we got there. The answer should be absolutely not. You dont get to fuck off your country, the fans and your team mates then come crawling back because theres a tiny amount of success. That type of player is the one you dont want in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: If he was completely unavailable he’d come out as say he’s retired. There’s an interview with Liam Palmer in October saying he reckons that Fletcher would make himself available for a major tournament. Maybe these games would convince him? For me it’s a 100% no if he wanted to play in the finals only after watching his team mates get there. But I’d consider him if he wants to play in March. If I were Clarke I’d say to all of the players that ‘have made them selves unavailable’/retired that they won’t be picked for the finals unless they make themselves available for these games too. The fact he’s not been in the squad says a lot. Maybe him and Clarke decided he wouldn’t officially retire but he wasn’t available for the qualifiers, in any case he’s not that good to just come waltzing back in for a play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Our fans are becoming worse than embarrassing. Crawling tae cunts who see our national side as an irrelevance. Get a fucking grip by fuck. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Agreed... I'd rather fail to qualify with guys who are committed to the national team, than fail to qualify with cunts that are too big for their boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: If he was completely unavailable he’d come out as say he’s retired. There’s an interview with Liam Palmer in October saying he reckons that Fletcher would make himself available for a major tournament. Maybe these games would convince him? For me it’s a 100% no if he wanted to play in the finals only after watching his team mates get there. But I’d consider him if he wants to play in March. If I were Clarke I’d say to all of the players that ‘have made them selves unavailable’/retired that they won’t be picked for the finals unless they make themselves available for these games too. You've probably nailed it He cannot be fucked playing for his country But won't rule himself out entirely As if the rest of the players without him manage to get to a major finals He'll stick his hand up again as he quite fancies that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Agreed... I'd rather fail to qualify with guys who are committed to the national team, than fail to qualify with cunts that are too big for their boots Does that include our captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Bino's said: Does that include our captain For me, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Bino's said: Does that include our captain Why would it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Bino's said: Does that include our captain .......... don’t pretend to be thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzohiggy Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Why would it Some people on here like to cut their nose off to spite their face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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