0Neils40yarder Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Left back is more than adequately covered, Goalkeeper could be better but not absolutely shite, midfield and wide areas we are as strong as we have been for years, while up front if we get support to the lone striker we might just avout get away with it... Right back was previously my big concern but I think Palmer has nailed that position as his own, with Ryan Jack also a possibility there. Right now though, centre back is my main issue... We seem to have a plethora of centre backs who are on a range from 'OK' to 'total dugmeat'. McKenna, Gallagher, Devlin, Findlay, Porteous, Bates, Souttar, Hanley are probably the main names in contention...possibly throw Tierney into that mix too. How does the manager fashion a decent pairing out of those names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Gallagher, Hanley, Mulgrew (I know), Devlin and Liam Lindsay are the way to go. Haven't a clue why Lindsay hasn't warranted at least a call up to the squad so far for a look. McKenna looks overweight to me. If he sorts that out then he can be the first name in the back four. It's up to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Haven't a clue why Lindsay hasn't warranted at least a call up to the squad so far for a look. Because he's been utterly terrible for Stoke supposedly Edited November 19, 2019 by Bobby Russell's Lovechild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Centre back is an issue? Wow this is ground breaking 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryWood34 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Marshall paterson souttar tierney robertson Jack McTom Forrest McGinn McLean Naisy with 2 players protecting our centre backs we are fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ParisInAKilt said: Centre back is an issue? Wow this is ground breaking 😆 It's the main issue as far as I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Because he's been utterly terrible for Stoke supposedly Very very inconsistent, either good or bad no in between LIAM COOPER should be on every ones list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, GaryWood34 said: Marshall paterson souttar tierney robertson Jack McTom Forrest McGinn McLean Naisy with 2 players protecting our centre backs we are fine I worry about the lack of height on the left side of that defence... Tierney playing in a back 3, I'd be comfortable with, not sure as a back 2 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, ceudmilefailte said: Very very inconsistent, either good or bad no in between LIAM COOPER should be on every ones list Forgot about him to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, 0Neils40yarder said: It's the main issue as far as I can see Probably is. But you win and lose as a team and the best centre backs still make mistakes when under constant pressure for 90 mins as what happens when we play the likes of Russia Belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelQuashieBallonDor Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 If the play offs were tomorrow and everyone was available, this would be the line up for me. Marshall Palmer Cooper Gallagher Robertson McTominay Jack Christie McGinn Fraser Shankland??? Unsure where Tierney would go, but he could certainly slot into anywhere in the backline. Forrest i also would like to pick but for me Christie and McGinn are the first names on that teamsheet and both must play John Fleck is definitely worthy of a game and I think a great player to have off the bench. McGregor goes missing too often for me and offers very little most of the time. What happened to Leigh Griffiths? I genuinely don't know what is going on with our striker options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryWood34 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, NigelQuashieBallonDor said: If the play offs were tomorrow and everyone was available, this would be the line up for me. Marshall Palmer Cooper Gallagher Robertson McTominay Jack Christie McGinn Fraser Shankland??? Unsure where Tierney would go, but he could certainly slot into anywhere in the backline. Forrest i also would like to pick but for me Christie and McGinn are the first names on that teamsheet and both must play John Fleck is definitely worthy of a game and I think a great player to have off the bench. McGregor goes missing too often for me and offers very little most of the time. What happened to Leigh Griffiths? I genuinely don't know what is going on with our striker options. Naismith has just played brilliantly and has 51 caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I think Porteous will prove to be the best out the lot, however with no games between now and the playoffs, then he can't be considered a starter for those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelQuashieBallonDor Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, GaryWood34 said: Naismith has just played brilliantly and has 51 caps. He is certainly a better pick than McBurnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 McTominay and McGregor as holding midfielders. Christie, McGinn and Forrest have nailed the 3 (Armstrong/Fraser as back-ups) and Naismith/Shankland up top McKimmie, Hansen, Tierney and Robertson at the back please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I would go Tierney and Cooper for the playoffs. McKenna has played his way out of a start for me. Gallagher did fine but ultimately he's not the answer. Well worth his squad place mind you. Palmer has nailed down right back so Tierney would fit in well as a ball playing centre half while Cooper looked reasonable next to the bomb scare Mulgrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Left back is more than adequately covered, Goalkeeper could be better but not absolutely shite, midfield and wide areas we are as strong as we have been for years, while up front if we get support to the lone striker we might just avout get away with it... Right back was previously my big concern but I think Palmer has nailed that position as his own, with Ryan Jack also a possibility there. Right now though, centre back is my main issue... We seem to have a plethora of centre backs who are on a range from 'OK' to 'total dugmeat'. McKenna, Gallagher, Devlin, Findlay, Porteous, Bates, Souttar, Hanley are probably the main names in contention...possibly throw Tierney into that mix too. How does the manager fashion a decent pairing out of those names? You can't fashion a decent pairing out of our available options. That's the problem. We don't have any centre backs who are of a high enough quality to merit qualifying for a major finals. I find it a bit funny when pundits/fans discuss this as an issue that an international manager can supposedly solve. Either Scottish players of that quality, who play in a certain position exist or they don't. There's not much the international manager can do to mould a player into the required quality when he works with them only 5 times a year, each time for less than a week! All Steve Clarke or any international manager can do is wait/pray for someone Scottish to come along in club football who is of the quality required. Kieran Tierney is a great player, but he'd presumably be 'square-peg-in-a-round-hole' type useless as an international centre back, particularly if he wasn't getting regular first team football at Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Mctominay an tierney centre half partnership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElChris04 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) The ideal line up come the playoffs Bain ( if he gets game time ) Tierney-Souttar-Cooper-Robertson McTominay-McGregor Christie-McGinn-Forrest ( Fraser if he’s in form come March ) Griffiths Edited November 19, 2019 by ElChris04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Mctominay an tierney centre half partnership Not sure if that's a serious suggestion, but one out-of-position player would be bad enough. Two would be beyond unworkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, ElChris04 said: The ideal line up come the playoffs Bain ( if he gets game time ) Tierney-Souttar-Cooper-Robertson McTominay-McGregor Christie-McGinn-Forrest ( Fraser if he’s in form come March ) Griffiths Tierney isn't getting any game time. Griffiths isn't getting any game time. Cooper is pish. Souttar is even pishier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, GaryWood34 said: Marshall paterson souttar tierney robertson Jack McTom Forrest McGinn McLean Naisy with 2 players protecting our centre backs we are fine That can't be your team with everyone available surely? That's not beating Norway or Serbia, Tierney a CB in a back 4? Where is Fraser, impact sub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Mctominay an tierney centre half partnership And why not, it would mean the rest of the team plays in the same shape and we massively improve the weakest area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, GaryWood34 said: Naismith has just played brilliantly and has 51 caps. Guess Naismith is getting on a bit now but yeah I don't see the big issue if he's the starting CF for the play offs. He was a good player for many years at Everton, less so at Norwich and is scoring a decent amount for Hearts. Big part of getting through the nations group was his clincher v Albania, also scored v Portugal last year. For not the biggest striker he scores a decent amount of headers so given Steven Fletcher dosen't seem interested he's the best leader of the line available even though ideally I'd have him playing off a main frontman. Hopefully Griffiths can feel o.k around March as having him on the bench would give the attacking options a stronger look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: And why not, it would mean the rest of the team plays in the same shape and we massively improve the weakest area. Mitrovic would certainly be liking all these wierd CBs combinations in the unlikely event he reads this forum. Get Serbia and you get a very good striker in the air so you need CBs who can win headers even if they're not great in many other areas. Is Tierney really that good at that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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