csinclair Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Scotland squad update: IN: Lewis Morgan & Graeme Shinnie. OUT: Liam Cooper, Ryan Fraser, Scott McTominay & Andy Robertson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 The fact that we've only brought in 2 players might suggest we're leaving room for potential U21 players after their game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Fuck sake man. Robertson and Tierney both gone. Left with Taylor as our left back option. This is fucking nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhayes17 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Sorry but Robertson should not captain us again, doesn't matter if hes playing at the highest level there are players in that squad that are 10x the leader and have 10x the commitment of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhayes17 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Marshall Palmer Devlin McKenna Taylor Jack McGregor Forrest McGinn Christie Shankland Would be my team for Cyprus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, jackhayes17 said: Sorry but Robertson should not captain us again, doesn't matter if hes playing at the highest level there are players in that squad that are 10x the leader and have 10x the commitment of him Robertson's missed just 4 of the last 26 games.. how is that a lack of commitment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just still struggling to get my head around Morgan warranting a call up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, csinclair said: Just still struggling to get my head around Morgan warranting a call up The only thing I can think is he must look decent in training, because he has been in a number of times now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, csinclair said: Just still struggling to get my head around Morgan warranting a call up Johnston's still 'injured' else I'm sure he'd be in instead. Bit late to be calling Russell over from the states probably. Then we're into people at a similar international level to Morgan. McKay's not playing for Swansea. Hastie's been dropped at Rotherham. Matt Ritchie was asked, i guess, hence his international retirement today. Matt Phillips still has a niggling injury afaik. GMS falls into the same boat as Russell.. not worth shipping him over for the bench. Morgan's at least had a cap.. and he's fit. A low bar, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhayes17 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, andyD said: Robertson's missed just 4 of the last 26 games.. how is that a lack of commitment? 4 games too many. He missed Kazakhstan for the dentist!! How many Scotland captains of old would choose a dental procedure over playing for their country in an important game? John McGinn should be Scotland captain for the next 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, jackhayes17 said: 4 games too many. He missed Kazakhstan for the dentist!! How many Scotland captains of old would choose a dental procedure over playing for their country in an important game? John McGinn should be Scotland captain for the next 10 years haha calm down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 "Robertson, who delivered the cross for Liverpool's second goal in the 3-1 win over Manchester City on Sunday, will remain with Steve Clarke's Scotland squad for a couple of days but will not travel to Cyprus for Saturday's match." Moral support I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, csinclair said: Moral support I guess? Acting like a captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Robertson, who delivered the cross for Liverpool's second goal in the 3-1 win over Manchester City on Sunday, will remain with Steve Clarke's Scotland squad for a couple of days but will not travel to Cyprus for Saturday's match. McTominay was carried off during Manchester United's 3-1 weekend win over Brighton & Hove Albion, while Fraser played the full 90 minutes of Bournemouth's 2-1 loss at Newcastle United. Celtic's Morgan is drafted in despite having made just three club appearances since August, while Shinnie has impressed at Derby County since breaking into the team last month. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/50389854 Hm. A chap on TA Facebook is claiming it is common knowledge that Robertson is getting an op. News to me, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark_Knight Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Robertson, Tierney, Fraser and McTominay out. My prediction of Cyprus beating us 2:0 sounds quite conservative now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, AndyDD said: Hm. A chap on TA Facebook is claiming it is common knowledge that Robertson is getting an op. News to me, though. Didn't think he needed an op either. He went off against Genk two weeks ago, and they'd said the injury was niggling and not going away. I assumed this was just a chance to actually rest and get it gone. Probably the best matches to miss for us tbh, if it helps him be 100% for the games that matter in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, andyD said: Didn't think he needed an op either. He went off against Genk two weeks ago, and they'd said the injury was niggling and not going away. I assumed this was just a chance to actually rest and get it gone. Probably the best matches to miss for us tbh, if it helps him be 100% for the games that matter in March. Aye probably. It really humps us at left back though. Taylor did very well in Brussels, but he was coming off his best ever season. This is him playing for the second time in 3 months. Big difference. The idea for these games was to get momentum and build familiarity and relationships to give us best chance to hit the ground running in these two games. This really hampers that. Two of the back four, maybe three of the back four, will be different now. Some of the midfield will be, too. Frustrating. Clarke must be beyond livid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee-toon-red Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Fuck Ryan Fraser, I woudn't even bother calling him up again as he clearly isn't interested. I'll give Robertson the benefit of the doubt for the moment but it's a bad look for the captain to be withdrawing without a real injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark_Knight Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, wee-toon-red said: Fuck Ryan Fraser 11 caps in three years is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 TBH I'm not fussed about the withdrawals. Fraser has been off the boil for Bournemouth and what has he done for Scotland of late ; Cooper looks to be an average better, is he any worse than what we have in the squad? ; McTominay is a loss and looks to get better and better. A year ago we we worried about having two "world class" left backs (aye, a wee bity carried away) but now we don't have one nor a right back for these games. We've got Greg Taylor, but he's not playing at all for Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Celtic’s 3rd choice left back who’s not played since summer our only option now? Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: TBH I'm not fussed about the withdrawals. Fraser has been off the boil for Bournemouth and what has he done for Scotland of late ; Cooper looks to be an average better, is he any worse than what we have in the squad? ; McTominay is a loss and looks to get better and better. A year ago we we worried about having two "world class" left backs (aye, a wee bity carried away) but now we don't have one nor a right back for these games. We've got Greg Taylor, but he's not playing at all for Celtic. Fraser got an assist at the weekend and it was his ball that got us the winner against Cyprus, as well as the goal against Russia (their keeper needs to take a modicum of responsibility for that, though... ) Apart from that, you're right, nothing of note since the nations league. Which I suppose goes for most of the squad. Aye, having two outstanding left backs but being unable to play them is typical. Suppose it at least ends those 'how do we get them both into the team' discussions until February/March time. Celtic's reluctance to use Taylor comes back to bite us afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 All of our best players aren’t playing for various reasons; Allan McGregor, Andy Robertson, Kieran Tierney, Scott McTominay, Ryan Fraser & Leigh Griffiths What a load of absolute pish, we are a complete joke and the interest in the next couple of games has plummeted from zero to whatever comes after that. Furthermore, in their absence we have called up no young players & our squad is filled with run of the mill SPL players. Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitelaw Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 This is becoming brutal. We really need to get some much needed confidence and momentum going before the playoffs and these 2 games were a great chance to do it. A fully fit squad should have been more than capable of getting 6 points but now, especially with that defence, I'm worried we may only get a point now! What rips my knitting most is, with the possible exception of McTominay, all these guys will be playing next week for their clubs. Fucks me off no end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, AndyDD said: Aye probably. It really humps us at left back though. Taylor did very well in Brussels, but he was coming off his best ever season. This is him playing for the second time in 3 months. Big difference. The idea for these games was to get momentum and build familiarity and relationships to give us best chance to hit the ground running in these two games. This really hampers that. Two of the back four, maybe three of the back four, will be different now. Some of the midfield will be, too. Frustrating. Clarke must be beyond livid. I don't think Clarke has any right to be angry about anything. He's not replaced Cooper, so that suggests he was for the bench anyway. As for left back, Clarke made the choice to leave out Tierney. Robertson's had an injury for a couple of weeks, so there was always a chance he's withdraw. Taylor's an ok understudy, but it's not like we only have 3 left backs in Scotland. Barry Douglas still turns out for Leeds fairly frequently, or call up someone young for their first taste. Patrick Reading at Middlesborough, Tony Gallagher at Liverpool or Aaron Hickey at Hearts who's been doing well from what I've seen. I assume Clarke's called up Shinnie to cover left back and defensive mid. It's a lazy call imo. Shinnie's not a left back any more, he's a defensive mid. We should using him as that and only that, especially give what happened last time we stuffed him in at left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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