AndyDD Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Vis a vis Tierney; Arsenal 'asked that he not be selected'. Why we aren't telling Arsenal to do wan, I'm not sure. Nobody had the baws to ask him that, or anything of value. Standard pish from the scottish media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 51 minutes ago, N4Footsoldier said: Looks like Naismith replacing Russell. I don't particularly rate either Russell or Phillips but they do give us something a bit different than Naismith who's a pretty standard centre forward (past his best). Elsewhere in the striker debate, I still struggle to see what McBurnie has done at any juncture whether domestically or internationally to warrant the call ups.I wouldn't be surprised if he's the first striking option always selected. It's going to take some serious bottle to leave out someone playing (off the bench) in the Premier League who cost £20m, but let's be frank the consensus is that he's absolutely woeful. To be fair he scored 20 odd goals in the English Championship last season and he's our top scoring striker in the EPL this season (with one goal). Ideally we'd be able to call a striker up who's scored more than once in a top European league instead but we are where we are. The bottom line is we are short of alternatives in his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, scotlad said: Yep. Leaving him out last time made sense but he's a few games for Arsenal under his belt now. I accept he's not 100% yet but he's surely still a better option than O'Donnell or Palmer. Maybe he's not 100%, but neither are McKenna or Naismith, and they have been included. These games should be prep for the playoffs. That's not going to be the case if we aren't playing the best available players. Or should we assume Tierney will find a way to not be selected for the playoffs as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, Tartan blood said: Maybe he's not 100%, but neither are McKenna or Naismith, and they have been included. These games should be prep for the playoffs. That's not going to be the case if we aren't playing the best available players. Or should we assume Tierney will find a way to not be selected for the playoffs as well... I agree, it's disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Maybe he's not 100%, but neither are McKenna or Naismith, and they have been included. These games should be prep for the playoffs. That's not going to be the case if we aren't playing the best available players. Or should we assume Tierney will find a way to not be selected for the playoffs as well... Maybe he asked Arsenal to say they don't want him to be released. Could have been a good couple of games to get his fitness up. Said it before, I still think he'll retire from international duty quite early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madoneone Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, McTeeko said: Shankland’s still there 👍🏼 Think my eyes must have been painted on did not see him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, scotlad said: Yep. Leaving him out last time made sense but he's a few games for Arsenal under his belt now. I accept he's not 100% yet but he's surely still a better option than O'Donnell or Palmer. I'd heard he said he didn't want to play RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I just don't think Tierney gives a shit about playing for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDD Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Maybe he's not 100%, but neither are McKenna or Naismith, and they have been included. These games should be prep for the playoffs. That's not going to be the case if we aren't playing the best available players. Or should we assume Tierney will find a way to not be selected for the playoffs as well... Presumably Aberdeen and Hearts did not have a problem with their being selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Yep seems like it, disappointing. 2 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: I just don't think Tierney gives a shit about playing for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, madoneone said: Think my eyes must have been painted on did not see him I did the same. They tried to hide him by sticking him a different column all on his own. Might be part of a cunning plan for corner kicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Tierney is officially becoming the Jordan Rossiter of international football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Tartan_McCole said: I'm sure I've read it's because he values Celtic more than he values Scotland. It's because he doesn't want to be a right fitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Why is everyone up in arms about Tierney? The guy has just moved clubs, has clear injury issues that he is trying to overcome and his own club haven't even deemed him ready to be a regular starter. I don't see what there is to read into there. Why is his commitment is being questioned or even stating that he doesn't want to play RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: Why is everyone up in arms about Tierney? The guy has just moved clubs, has clear injury issues that he is trying to overcome and his own club haven't even deemed him ready to be a regular starter. I don't see what there is to read into there. Why is his commitment is being questioned or even stating that he doesn't want to play RB? he's played the last few games so is by definition fit. if there was a prem game next week he'd be playing. If he's fit for Arsenal, he's fit for Scotland. unless he's been injured meantime which is not what is being suggested. all in all, a lot of people pay good money to follow Scotland and I think a bit of transparency would be welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 these are not meaningless games you just don't turn up to. this is about one of the few occasions getting our squad together before absolutely massive games next year. i back the players that turn up 100%. if they qualify the suddenly committed should be told to GTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, PapofGlencoe said: he's played the last few games so is by definition fit. if there was a prem game next week he'd be playing. If he's fit for Arsenal, he's fit for Scotland. unless he's been injured meantime which is not what is being suggested. all in all, a lot of people pay good money to follow Scotland and I think a bit of transparency would be welcome. Add to that the inclusion of McKenna and Naismith after long term injuries, the Tierney thing stinks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: Why is everyone up in arms about Tierney? The guy has just moved clubs, has clear injury issues that he is trying to overcome and his own club haven't even deemed him ready to be a regular starter. I don't see what there is to read into there. Why is his commitment is being questioned or even stating that he doesn't want to play RB? I made same arguments as you for the last set of fixtures as he had hardly played back in early October. I felt it was right to leave him out. Not now though, he is playing for Arsenal, he should be in the squad. no excuses. If likes of Naismith are called up and deemed ready then should so KT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Regarding Tierney, if Arsenal asked for him to be left out Clarke should have told them to bolt. If its come from the player we should be telling him to bolt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 52 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: I just don't think Tierney gives a shit about playing for us. I haven't been able to find the video, but when he pulled out of one of the squads last season (then made a recovery for Celtic's next game), he was asked in s Celtic press conference about his recovery after pulling out and he gave this wry smile, that the Celtic faithful lapped up on social media (and TBF, I don't blame them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: I made same arguments as you for the last set of fixtures as he had hardly played back in early October. I felt it was right to leave him out. Not now though, he is playing for Arsenal, he should be in the squad. no excuses. If likes of Naismith are called up and deemed ready then should so KT. Agree with this. If he continues to play for arsenal before and after these fixtures then looks like the beginning of the end for him and Scotland. I'd much rather players just say from the offset they do not wish to be considered for selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, JECK said: Agree with this. If he continues to play for arsenal before and after these fixtures then looks like the beginning of the end for him and Scotland. He's 22 FFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Toepoke said: He's 22 FFS! If he isn’t interested, his age isn’t relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, JECK said: Agree with this. If he continues to play for arsenal before and after these fixtures then looks like the beginning of the end for him and Scotland. I'd much rather players just say from the offset they do not wish to be considered for selection. Totally agree about this and it should be made public. A little bit of honesty is all fans want from players. I'd sooner a player comes out and states they have retired or no longer wish to be considered for selection than hide behind a clearly flimsy excuse and one that exhonerates him from blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Maybe he asked Arsenal to say they don't want him to be released. Could have been a good couple of games to get his fitness up. Said it before, I still think he'll retire from international duty quite early I've given him the benefit of the doubt in the past, but it's getting a little bit too frequent to be a coincidence. Clarke can call up anyone he wants. You could have a broken leg and still be selected. Scotland's medical staff are the ones that should be assessing his ability to play. Even if it transpired he wasn't fit enough, it would still be valuable getting the future elite of the national team together and gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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