Guest ElChris04 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 What’s the problem? Steve Clarke? the players lacking ambition or care? the SFA? all I know is today’s match is the final straw for me, I’ve accepted we won’t be qualifying for Euro 2020 or anything with the way we are playing. Heartless. Gutless. And totally hopeless for 90 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Clarke is as good as we'll get. Agree there are deeper problems here. The SFA is rotten to the core, the systems aren't working and nobody wants to change them for fear of upsetting the clubs seen by the bosses as important. Both of them. And while it goes on, the fans see the national side as a joke (especially many from said two clubs) and the problems go on reproducing themselves. On the bright side, should be even more peaceful at Hampden on Sunday. Might go early, take my laptop and get some work done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, macy37 said: What the fuck has King Kenny got to do with this cunt? Well, you did say "What to people expect when we appoint managers that have achieved fuck all? " I pointed out that Dalglish is someone who has achieved quite a bit as a manager but few of us wanted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Snodgrass and Fraser were diabolical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, KirkieRobRoy said: Clarke is as good as we'll get. Agree there are deeper problems here. The SFA is rotten to the core, the systems aren't working and nobody wants to change them for fear of upsetting the clubs seen by the bosses as important. Both of them. And while it goes on, the fans see the national side as a joke (especially many from said two clubs) and the problems go on reproducing themselves. On the bright side, should be even more peaceful at Hampden on Sunday. Might go early, take my laptop and get some work done... Better Take a pillow as well mate, you will need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, bigfathagiz said: However we dont have the players....I drive by Glasgow High School most nights and their pitches are full of young fit guys playing feckin cricket and rugby not a football pitch in sight that is the future of Scotlands sport. You drive past fields full of people playing cricket most nights in October? In Scotland? You really don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Mulgrew is howling, a total liability for us and always has been. Burkes inability to lift his head at this level is quite astonishing. He’s like a runaway lawnmower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Our supposedly "quality" players don't seem to perform well for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, mccaughey85 said: Better Take a pillow as well mate, you will need it. Good thinking. Should be plenty of room to spread oot and make myself comfortable, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Que Sera Sera Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Why can’t ye get typhoons in Moscow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, KirkieRobRoy said: Good thinking. Should be plenty of room to spread oot and make myself comfortable, anyway. Serious question Why are you going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jim Beem said: Mulgrew is howling, a total liability for us and always has been. Burkes inability to lift his head at this level is quite astonishing. He’s like a runaway lawnmower. Aye, Mulgrew for me was the worst out of the lot. Utterly appalling schoolboy stuff from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jim Beem said: Mulgrew is howling, a total liability for us and always has been. Burkes inability to lift his head at this level is quite astonishing. He’s like a runaway lawnmower. If it were me, I'd put McKenna and Porteous together for the two November matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, WCTA said: Aye, Mulgrew for me was the worst out of the lot. Utterly appalling schoolboy stuff from him. Possibly the worst performance I have ever seen from a Scotland player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, ErsatzThistle said: If it were me, I'd put McKenna and Porteous together for the two November matches. I would happy see porteous fast tracked into the side, can't be any worse than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, mccaughey85 said: I would happy see porteous fast tracked into the side, can't be any worse than what we have. Of course, I'm not saying he is the solution but to me the lad looks like he has a bit of fire and fight in him which I like. Edited October 10, 2019 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Well, you did say "What to people expect when we appoint managers that have achieved fuck all? " I pointed out that Dalglish is someone who has achieved quite a bit as a manager but few of us wanted him. There was plenty wanted KK back in the day. The point remains Clarke is a footballing nobody in terms of achievement yet Wanks on here demanded he was the one. Mostly because he had no connection to the Huns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, ErsatzThistle said: Of course, I'm not saying he is the solution but to me the lad looks like he has a bit of fire and fight in him which I like. I watched a bit of the u21s tonight and they looked alot better than the senior team, perhaps a few would be worth promoting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Also, McGregor needs dropped. Ideally from Celtic as well. Im convinced he is burnt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbroath1320 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 This is why Levein launched the performance schools. Until the quality of player improves, we're asking managers to do the impossible. Clarke played Russia with a goalkeeper and centre-back coming out of English lower divisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Just now, macy37 said: There was plenty wanted KK back in the day. The point remains Clarke is a footballing nobody in terms of achievement yet Wanks on here demanded he was the one. Mostly because he had no connection to the Huns. Aye ..................... in 2007 when McLeish resigned. In 2019 when McLeish was sacked, very few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark_Knight Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, ElChris04 said: What’s the problem? Steve Clarke? the players lacking ambition or care? the SFA? all I know is today’s match is the final straw for me, I’ve accepted we won’t be qualifying for Euro 2020 or anything with the way we are playing. Heartless. Gutless. And totally hopeless for 90 minutes. Definitely not Steve Clarke. It's not the players, either. The blame for this mess lays with the SFA and all Scottish professional clubs. Gassroots have been neglected for too long. The first signs came in the early 90's when "The night a team died" against Portugal. There was no reaction from the SFA or the clubs then and we're only now seeing the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ErsatzThistle said: Of course, I'm not saying he is the solution but to me the lad looks like he has a bit of fire and fight in him which I like. Yip, we need a couple of arseholes in our side and he seems to have a bit of that. We meekly accept defeat, I want to see angry, bad tempered bastards who, if they are going down, will go down with a fight and leave their mark on the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) Does feel the players who actually turn up just go through the motions now. Turn up for national team that dosen't achieve anything other than negativity and it's probably seen as inconveince before they go back to their successful club teams. If you look back last 2 seasons likes of Robertson and Fleck had played in teams that win majority of their games so mentality must take a knock coming to join the national team where it's simply not the same feeling. Said before but Scotland is in similar place to where Wales were a decade ago. Decent smattering of premier league players but were usually finishing 4th-5th in groups (even with Bale and Ramsey), plenty of call offs each squad and their managerial appointments weren't great. Gary Speed started to change the culture around the team and just over five years later they made an international tournament. There is no quick fix really, just hope Clarke can change the mentality at least. Edit: Dread to think of the crowd for Sunday. 10k? Edited October 10, 2019 by Tartan Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 minute ago, macy37 said: There was plenty wanted KK back in the day. The point remains Clarke is a footballing nobody in terms of achievement yet Wanks on here demanded he was the one. Mostly because he had no connection to the Huns. Sorry but that's bullshit, Clarke was a decent option given the fact not many ppl want the job and Clarke had done a decent job with west brom and killie. It had nothing to with him having no connection to the Huns either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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