Squirrelhumper Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 New 4 year deal at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Get him and Mikey Johnston in the next squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) This lad has played about 20 minutes of senior fitba, give him a break ffs. Of course I hope he'll be a star and lead us to a tournament soon but he could just as easily be the next John Fleck. 🙄 Edited September 13, 2019 by slasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, slasher said: This lad has played about 20 minutes of senior fitba, give him a break ffs. Of course I hope he'll be a star and lead us to a tournament soon but he could just as easily be the next John Fleck. 🙄 Fleck will be in the next squad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 PL2 Player of the month. Some nice comments in response. https://mobile.twitter.com/PLYouth/status/1172434781637709827 Personally I'd only call him up if he does get more time in the first team. Which actually does look likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, mrniaboc said: Fleck will be in the next squad... And your point is? Fleck is now 28. Are we to wait 10 years on Gilmour making an impact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, slasher said: And your point is? Fleck is now 28. Are we to wait 10 years on Gilmour making an impact? He'll be Scotland captain by time he is 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Squirrelhumper said: He'll be Scotland captain by time he is 21. I hope you're right Humper, but we've heard it all before about a succession of 'great young talents'. Let's at least wait till he's playing regular first team football before he's branded the new McStay, Fergie or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, slasher said: I hope you're right Humper, but we've heard it all before about a succession of 'great young talents'. Let's at least wait till he's playing regular first team football before he's branded the new McStay, Fergie or whatever. To be fair, I've been fairly consistent in my appraisal of him for the past few years. I said he'd make his Chelsea debut this season (he has), he's in the Chelsea Champion League squad and knowing how grounded he/his family are then I'm confident he'll not let success derail his drive/ambition. Funnily enough the other young player that has made a move to a massive club and looks to have a great future is Liam Morrison who just signed for Bayern. Both he and Billy grew up less than a mile apart and pretty sure their dad's played football together growing up! Small world, even smaller is the fact the national team both grew up in exact same place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: To be fair, I've been fairly consistent in my appraisal of him for the past few years. I said he'd make his Chelsea debut this season (he has), he's in the Chelsea Champion League squad and knowing how grounded he/his family are then I'm confident he'll not let success derail his drive/ambition. Funnily enough the other young player that has made a move to a massive club and looks to have a great future is Liam Morrison who just signed for Bayern. Both he and Billy grew up less than a mile apart and pretty sure their dad's played football together growing up! Small world, even smaller is the fact the national team both grew up in exact same place! We've had plenty of false dawns in the past. But even back then the "promising" youngsters were just being linked with big teams. With the exception of Feruz and Gauld, I don't really think any of our prodigies actually moved to big teams. And Gilmour has already achieved more than Feruz did at Chelsea. Morrison at Bayern is a huge move, even if he does end up going to a "lesser" team it won't exactly be a failure not making it in 1 of the top 10 teams in the world. 3 or 4 years down the line, it'll be interesting to see what happens with those 2, plus seeing how McTominay et al progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandydon Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I see that Gilmour is a midfielder - is he defensive or offensive or can he do the lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Morrison at Bayern is a huge move, even if he does end up going to a "lesser" team it won't exactly be a failure not making it in 1 of the top 10 teams in the world. Why does this board always throw in these caveats? Bayern signed him and he’s every chance of playing for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Why does this board always throw in these caveats? Bayern signed him and he’s every chance of playing for them. Exactly - he no different from another other foreign 16 year old Bayern have scouted and signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 As good as it sounds, remember Feruz was offered a new deal when we all thought his career was fucked. I'm not getting excited just yet, but good luck to the lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: As good as it sounds, remember Feruz was offered a new deal when we all thought his career was fucked. I'm not getting excited just yet, but good luck to the lad Feruz was nowhere near the first team, not even remotely nevermind being in the CL squad and making his debut in the EPL at 18. Feruz wasn't captaining Scotland 21s aged 17. Feruz was a total rocket. Only comparable thing is the fact they both played for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Why does this board always throw in these caveats? Bayern signed him and he’s every chance of playing for them. I was just covering my back, knowing the negativity from some on this forum. I do have every faith in Morrison. They wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't showing the ability to make it to the first team. By the time he does break through, I'd like to think he'll be alongside a more experienced McKenna to create a solid partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Why does this board always throw in these caveats? Bayern signed him and he’s every chance of playing for them. That's easy. Certain people do actually revel in failure (it allows them to rant and pontificate) and love to say "I told you so". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Plus he’s 16 and most don’t make it. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 So the TAMB is also anti positivity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: I was just covering my back, knowing the negativity from some on this forum. I do have every faith in Morrison. They wouldn't have signed him if he wasn't showing the ability to make it to the first team. By the time he does break through, I'd like to think he'll be alongside a more experienced McKenna to create a solid partnership. I reckon Morrison’s teammate at international level might have something to say about that..... Leon King is a fantastic talent too.....plus Porteous arguably has more ability and leadership qualities than McKenna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, SWMM82 said: I reckon Morrison’s teammate at international level might have something to say about that..... Leon King is a fantastic talent too.....plus Porteous arguably has more ability and leadership qualities than McKenna I like what I've seen of Porteous in action for Hibs but am worried that he seems rather injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: I like what I've seen of Porteous in action for Hibs but am worried that he seems rather injury prone. This might be a result of how rash he is at times. He definitely doesn’t hold back.... no wonder he picks up injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Feruz was nowhere near the first team, not even remotely nevermind being in the CL squad and making his debut in the EPL at 18. Feruz wasn't captaining Scotland 21s aged 17. Feruz was a total rocket. Only comparable thing is the fact they both played for Chelsea. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: Plus he’s 16 and most don’t make it. Sorry. Agree with this. How many 16yr olds have Bayern signed, and how many have played for the first team? You're talking a tiny fraction. Sorry, but the odds are still against him making the 1st team. That's why the caveats are put in. It's just realism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dave78 said: Agree with this. How many 16yr olds have Bayern signed, and how many have played for the first team? You're talking a tiny fraction. Sorry, but the odds are still against him making the 1st team. That's why the caveats are put in. It's just realism. Yes but how many Scottish 16 year olds have Bayern signed? It’s good to get excited and root for his success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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