WCTA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, RenfrewBlue said: All of that pales into insignificance with the resurgence of racism and bigotry at the football. Which I agree with. But nobody knows yet if Morelos actually was racially abused. Nothing is even close to being conclusive by that video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, WCTA said: Which I agree with. But nobody knows yet if Morelos actually was racially abused. Nothing is even close to being conclusive by that video. A blind man can see what that guy is shouting, it would take a lip reader about one look to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Squirrelhumper said: A blind man can see what that guy is shouting, it would take a lip reader about one look to tell you. I honestly can’t make it out at all. What do you think he is saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, WCTA said: I honestly can’t make it out at all. What do you think he is saying? I can’t make it out either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, McTeeko said: I can’t make it out either. Exactly what I said about it being in no way conclusive. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I thought it looked as if was saying something about Jungle Bunny but I’ve only seen it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I dare say he said something bad as it was his fellow fans who grassed him but I don't for one second believe anyone on here who says they can read that guys lips. If it has not been reported already then tell us what he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Try saying these letter pairs one after another (concentrate on how you voice the letter in your gob) and then work out and anyone can lip read the difference. They obviously can hence why everyone in football holds their hands over their mouths now. It is an amazing skill really. b - p v - f d - t g - k z - s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: I agree but the ref was hopeless yesterday. He let the Ikpeazu foul at will in the first 45 but booked him for bugger all in the second half. Tavernier was booked for being fouled. Although I'd have booked him for being total shite earlier on. All of that pales into insignificance with the resurgence of racism and bigotry at the football. Ikpeazu spent the entire game being fouled. He’s an easy target, defenders know they can do so with impunity. A particular favourite was a swallow dive of laughably obvious fakeness by Katic right in front of the Main Stand that Clancy couldn’t make up his mind what to do first, give a foul for or award 5.0 for artistic content. He gave a foul though obviously.That he’s a hopeless ref I think just about everyone can agree. Rangers might be a lot better this season as the media assures us, I can only go by the two games I’ve seen. An OF game in which they were absolutely rotten and completely outplayed. And yesterday, in which they again looked ordinary, while a lot of average players struggled to create much of anything against a team that is 10th in the league. Maybe I’ve just seen them on a couple of bad days of course, I concede that’s possible. Re the alleged racist abuse, if the guy said it he should get a life ban and the police should be knocking on his door. I have no idea how anyone can say they know what he is saying from the clip, but if there is evidence then throw the book at him. No excuses. Not least because such behaviour gives the media all the excuses they need (not that they need any) to ignore 2 hours of sectarian party songs from hundreds, thousands, of fans in the away end. Edited October 21, 2019 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Pool Q said: Re the alleged racist abuse, if the guy said it he should get a life ban and the police should be knocking on his door. I have no idea how anyone can say they know what he is saying from the clip, but if there is evidence then throw the book at him. No excuses. Not least because such behaviour gives the media all the excuses they need (not that they need any) to ignore 2 hours of sectarian party songs from hundreds, thousands, of fans in the away end. Renfrew will be along shortly to sarcastically say something like, “That’s the important thing to take from the story” though. 🙄 Edited October 21, 2019 by WCTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: No, but that's the important thing to take from this story. 🙄 Typical old firm pish. The laws state he should've been booked. He wasn't. That's the long and the short of it. The rest is up in the air. It's the same with refereeing rangers Celtic games differently to other games. That's cheating and it is always in favour of the two cheeks. To pretend this isn't the case is plain wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: I agree but the ref was hopeless yesterday. He let the Ikpeazu foul at will in the first 45 but booked him for bugger all in the second half. Tavernier was booked for being fouled. Although I'd have booked him for being total shite earlier on. All of that pales into insignificance with the resurgence of racism and bigotry at the football. A couple of isolated instances of racism masks the blatant favouritism shown towards Rangers and Celtic for decades? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Is one or two Hearts fans dishing out racist abuse worse than thousands en masse singing about Catholics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Pool Q said: Ikpeazu spent the entire game being fouled. He’s an easy target, defenders know they can do so with impunity. A particular favourite was a swallow dive of laughably obvious fakeness by Katic right in front of the Main Stand that Clancy couldn’t make up his mind what to do first, give a foul for or award 5.0 for artistic content. He gave a foul though obviously.That he’s a hopeless ref I think just about everyone can agree. Rangers might be a lot better this season as the media assures us, I can only go by the two games I’ve seen. An OF game in which they were absolutely rotten and completely outplayed. And yesterday, in which they again looked ordinary, while a lot of average players struggled to create much of anything against a team that is 10th in the league. Maybe I’ve just seen them on a couple of bad days of course, I concede that’s possible. Re the alleged racist abuse, if the guy said it he should get a life ban and the police should be knocking on his door. I have no idea how anyone can say they know what he is saying from the clip, but if there is evidence then throw the book at him. No excuses. Not least because such behaviour gives the media all the excuses they need (not that they need any) to ignore 2 hours of sectarian party songs from hundreds, thousands, of fans in the away end. No excuses for Katic but you have glossed over Ikpeazu's hopeless dive in the first half nearly 2 full seconds after the contact with Katic stopped. They were every bit as bad as each other. My point was more to do with how Ikpeazu was booked for nothing after doing far worse before. I don't actually mind some physical contact between the Striker and Defender as its the kind of football I grew up watching. We were pish yesterday. Whether because Tavernier was awful or Hearts put us off our stride. We have played far better. As for the racist abuse its nice to see fellow fans pointing the finger at the guy. I'd appreciate it if the arseholes at Ibrox were treated the same but I can't see that happening anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, WCTA said: Renfrew will be along shortly to sarcastically say something like, “That’s the important thing to take from the story” though. 🙄 His point is valid and sensible. Yours was just pish. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Farcity said: Typical old firm pish. The laws state he should've been booked. He wasn't. That's the long and the short of it. The rest is up in the air. It's the same with refereeing rangers Celtic games differently to other games. That's cheating and it is always in favour of the two cheeks. To pretend this isn't the case is plain wrong. So you're stating that the refs are cheats? Seriously saying that? Or have I misinterpreted what you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Farcity said: Is one or two Hearts fans dishing out racist abuse worse than thousands en masse singing about Catholics? No. But that wasn't the point being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, RenfrewBlue said: His point is valid and sensible. Yours was just pish. 👍 You’re the King of the pish whataboutery on here ya chancer! 😂🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, RenfrewBlue said: No. But that wasn't the point being discussed. It’s an event that happened in the same game. It continues to happen in every single game that you monkeys are involved in. The same games which without them there would be no reason for this thread to exist. Faircity has every right to bring it up for discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farcity Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: So you're stating that the refs are cheats? Seriously saying that? Or have I misinterpreted what you mean? When you consistently don't apply the rules im not sure what else you can call it. 6 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Edited October 22, 2019 by Farcity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: No excuses for Katic but you have glossed over Ikpeazu's hopeless dive in the first half nearly 2 full seconds after the contact with Katic stopped. They were every bit as bad as each other. My point was more to do with how Ikpeazu was booked for nothing after doing far worse before. I don't actually mind some physical contact between the Striker and Defender as its the kind of football I grew up watching. We were pish yesterday. Whether because Tavernier was awful or Hearts put us off our stride. We have played far better. As for the racist abuse its nice to see fellow fans pointing the finger at the guy. I'd appreciate it if the arseholes at Ibrox were treated the same but I can't see that happening anytime soon. I honestly don’t remember the Ikpeazu dive. He does have previous for it though, and it is often comically obvious. Out of interest did Clancy give a foul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: So you're stating that the refs are cheats? Seriously saying that? Or have I misinterpreted what you mean? No, he’s saying that derby games are refereed differently to other games. The spfl have further confirmed this with their decision on substitutions this season and many an ex ref has said they let a lot go in terms of bookings early in a game so they don’t “ruin the spectacle” Its making decisions more favourable towards the big teams, so in a way, yes, I’ll take my first part back and say they’re at least cheating the other teams in the competition. Edited October 22, 2019 by dandydunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Pool Q said: I honestly don’t remember the Ikpeazu dive. He does have previous for it though, and it is often comically obvious. Out of interest did Clancy give a foul? No, he waved play on. It was just as bad, if not worse than Katic dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 12 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: My point was more to do with how Ikpeazu was booked for nothing after doing far worse before. That sounds like the ref was spot on. That’s how accumulation works. From the BBC radio coverage, he gave away a lot of fouls, but none were specifically yellow card offences. I’ve watched the racist incident and genuinely can’t make out what he said. I’d assume he is probably guilty as other Hearts fans grassed him in. Looking at the fine example of that man, white clearly isn’t the superior race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think the alleged racism incident is being blown out of proportion a bit. This is a single angry gammon frothing at the mouth with what appears to be a racist rant. Yes, he should be dealt with, there’s no place for it, but not sure one guy is indicative of a wider problem in Scottish football. Hundreds, probably thousands were belting out sectarianism early in the same game, that is surely a bigger issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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