Stu101 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: To be fair every single club will vote for what suits their club. There are very few who will vote for the good for the league and lets face it Rangers certainly aren't voting for the good of the game Agree. Wasn't being that serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Stu101 said: Be interesting to see how Celtic vote today. Their fans have been on at how corrupt the league for years (five way agreements, Rangers being signed off to play in Europe, etc.). Today is their chance to make a change. Lets see if they take it. I am so far out the loop with this stuff and almost beyond caring , what are we voting on today? Edited May 12, 2020 by Mox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, aaid said: Even the ghost of Christmas Past is coming out of the woodwork to say it was a good idea all along. I imagine Flat Earth, Lamia and Rossy will be along shortly as well. Has anyone actually said that an independent investigation would be a bad idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Munro Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mox said: I am so far out the loop with this stuff and almost beyond caring , what are we voting on today? The huns want an investigation into the SPFL, who they are accusing of being corrupt**(which really means they aren't nulling and voiding the season to let the huns off with another year of making a cunt of themselves on the park) They don't really believe this of course, they're just looking to deflect the attention away from their own failings and making sure their nutjob fans continue to buy season tickets despite Celtic winning 9iar Edited May 12, 2020 by Terry Munro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: or he is just stupid and didnt realise they could null and void a season but issue prize money based on current positions I'm not sure why people seem to think that's such a ridiculous suggestion, seems to me like its a pretty reasonable compromise position. On one hand there is a recognition of the results in the league up until the point it was suspended, i.e. prize money is awarded on the basis of current - or adjusted for PPG - league positions. If the league wants to award titles then, personally I think in the current circumstances they're pretty meaningless but I'm really not fussed either way. Essentially what you are doing is drawing a line under the current season and getting ready to move on. The problem is relegation - and by implication promotion - as that disadvantages teams *in the future* when there is still a lot of football to be played. I really don't see how you can legitimately relegate a team before the league is complete. Promotion is less problematic but for teams to be promoted when teams aren't relegated means that the top division will need to run with additional team(s) next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Scot Gardiner is a proper slug of a human being. I wouldn't believe anything he says, unless its backed up by a ton of evidence, he has always been a complete cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Inverness Statement is out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 20 hours ago, kumnio said: Cunt should use Domestos as a mixer. Would keep him safe from Coronavirus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Debian said: Inverness Statement is out... I'm not sure what the statement is meant to prove or what effect they think the statement will have. ICT have basically had a go at the DR article but at the same time agreed with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 There should be legislation on the number of statements each club is allowed to make, one a month is plenty. Its only a matter of time before one team says my dad is bigger than your dad. Theres probably more Scottish fitba statements on line now, than porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, SMcoolJ said: Has anyone actually said that an independent investigation would be a bad idea? the SPFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kumnio said: There should be legislation on the number of statements each club is allowed to make, one a month is plenty. Its only a matter of time before one team says my dad is bigger than your dad. Theres probably more Scottish fitba statements on line now, than porn. scottish football really is the most fucked up and dramtic in the world and thats when a ball hasn't been kicked in more than a month🙄 https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/18439352.neil-doncaster-rangers-dossier-proves-ibrox-chairman-douglas-park-defame-threaten/ more plot thickening 😂 Edited May 12, 2020 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: scottish football really is the most fucked up and dramtic in the world and thats when a ball hasn't been kicked in more than a month🙄 https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/18439352.neil-doncaster-rangers-dossier-proves-ibrox-chairman-douglas-park-defame-threaten/ more plot thickening 😂 Keep up. We've already responded to this. Rangers never denied speaking to them, but the dossier in no part nor statement mentions a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Mox said: I am so far out the loop with this stuff and almost beyond caring , what are we voting on today? Whether it was Larkhall, Ayrshire or HU.N. Other that hosted the sash bash VE Day street party where the granny got her swingers oot and did that wee march/dance around the scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Debian said: Keep up. We've already responded to this. Rangers never denied speaking to them, but the dossier in no part nor statement mentions a threat. so rangers have confirmed Park didn't threaten poor Neil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: so rangers have confirmed Park didn't threaten poor Neil? My understanding of that episode is that there was a discussion between Park, Doncaster and other SPFL officials. Doncaster's version of events is that Park made a defamatory statement and made threats to him. This resulted in lawyer's letters from the SPFL being sent to Rangers. Rangers version is that they dispute these allegations and view the lawyers letters themselves as intimidation from the SPFL. Unless there's a recording of the call then only those people involved will know what was said and remember it's perfectly possible for two people to have very different impressions of a discussion and for *neither* of them to be fundamentally incorrect based on their own perspective. People will obviously base who to believe on their own prejudices and allegiances but that would be stupid Where's the truth? Probably somewhere in the middle as is usually the case in situations like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, aaid said: My understanding of that episode is that there was a discussion between Park, Doncaster and other SPFL officials. Doncaster's version of events is that Park made a defamatory statement and made threats to him. This resulted in lawyer's letters from the SPFL being sent to Rangers. Rangers version is that they dispute these allegations and view the lawyers letters themselves as intimidation from the SPFL. Unless there's a recording of the call then only those people involved will know what was said and remember it's perfectly possible for two people to have very different impressions of a discussion and for *neither* of them to be fundamentally incorrect based on their own perspective. People will obviously base who to believe on their own prejudices and allegiances but that would be stupid Where's the truth? Probably somewhere in the middle as is usually the case in situations like this. thank you for the reasoned response Basically doncaster accused rangers of something, he has no proof. I gues we will find out at 3pm whether Rangers or ICT had proof of bullying and coercion too oh and another statement, this time its the turn of st johnstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, vanderark14 said: thank you for the reasoned response Basically doncaster accused rangers of something, he has no proof. I gues we will find out at 3pm whether Rangers or ICT had proof of bullying and coercion too oh and another statement, this time its the turn of st johnstone We don't know if Doncaster has any proof or not - he certainly hasn't released a dossier yet. Maybe that'll come out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I am sure even some rangers fans will find this amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Im guessing ICT are about to go tits up regardless of receiving their league money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, macy37 said: Im guessing ICT are about to go tits up regardless of receiving their league money. So you are guessing? Good business planning and inside thoughts Macy bhoy. I will just guess as well then. Then we can all guess. Or maybe we could wait on the facts. Just maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 when do we find out the result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kirk said: when do we find out the result? apparently just after 3pm today according to the record, Lawell and Gray gave rousing speeches😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kirk said: when do we find out the result? Depends how many the SPFL have to speak to, in order to get them to reconsider their votes.... Otherwise, it should be later today at somepoint. Some teams had already voted in advance of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stu101 said: Depends how many Peter Lawell to speak to, in order to get them to reconsider their votes.... Otherwise, it should be later today at somepoint. Some teams had already voted in advance of today. fixed it for ye pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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