0Neils40yarder Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, dohadeer said: I’d assume that Steve Clarke is not thinking along the same lines, but I may be proved wrong. Surely the likes of Armstrong, Jack, McGregor and McLean have far better shouts than Gilmour? One match doesn’t suddenly make him a world beater. If he can string several performances like that together, then great, but I’m not sure that he will be given the opportunity to do so, for the time being. Jorginho suspended...and its prime opportunity for Gilmour to take his place. That added to the fact that Steve Clarke will be very aware of him, given where they both come from then I think it's a certainty that he will be in the squad and if he turns up at training and makes a cunt of Mclean, Jack and the rest then who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bino's said: £2.8m a year of tax payers money in that commentary booth That's a different argument altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, dohadeer said: They’re basically the same, very little difference between them. One can easily change into the other, depending on how the game turns out. Nah it’s quite a big difference. McGinn has played significantly higher up the pitch than the 2 other central midfielders. If we are to play the 4231, Clarke needs to make the call on who plays the McGinn role if he’s not fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Many comments on social media now wanting him called up for England 😂 He is eligible for England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: Nah it’s quite a big difference. McGinn has played significantly higher up the pitch than the 2 other central midfielders. If we are to play the 4231, Clarke needs to make the call on who plays the McGinn role if he’s not fit. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohadeer Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, bigfingers said: Exactly! I assumed that we did play 4-2-3-1 (like most teams) and got told by several people on here that Steve Clarke plays 4-3-3, not 4-2-3-1! Not a huge difference really, your 3 central midfielders will be required to contribute at both ends of the pitch, 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 are just fluid versions of each other, depending on how the match pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Clarke has always played 4-2-3-1. Can't even remember the last time we played 4-3-3. 4-2-3-1 is the reason we have been effective because we have played mcginn more advanced. Options for the number 10 role would be for me mcginn, Armstrong, Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: He is eligible for England. Is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Let’s get Real. Yes he was very good tonight but FFS he has started, what, 2 games at first team level. If he was a right back or even a centre half, them maybe he would make the squad but we are well covered in the centre midfield area. I would be gobsmacked if he makes the squad for a very important game. Later in the year in Nations League is where I expect him to get involved. BTW he does look a player Edited March 3, 2020 by GHfaeGTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said: Let’s get Real. Yes he was very good tonight but FFS he has started, what, 2 games at first team level. If he was a right back or even a centre half, them maybe he would make the squad but we are well covered in the centre midfield area. I would be gobsmacked if he makes the squad for a very important game. Later in the year in Nations League is where I expect him to get involved. BTW he does look a player Depends who’s fit in a couple of weeks time I suppose. If McGinn doesn't make it and maybe another first choice midfielder gets injured then I’d rather see Gilmour get a call up before some non-entity that will get nowhere near the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: He is eligible for England. Got any proof of that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Texas Pete said: Depends who’s fit in a couple of weeks time I suppose. If McGinn doesn't make it and maybe another first choice midfielder gets injured then I’d rather see Gilmour get a call up before some non-entity that will get nowhere near the pitch. ?? Non entity? In no particular order, even if McGinn doesn’t make it, you’ve got Armstrong, Fleck, Jack, McTominay, McGregor, Christie, McGregor and McLean who are all likely to be called up before Gilmour this time round, and all playing at good level regularly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said: ?? Non entity? In no particular order, even if McGinn doesn’t make it, you’ve got Armstrong, Fleck, Jack, McTominay, McGregor, Christie, McGregor and McLean who are all likely to be called up before Gilmour this time round, and all playing at good level regularly All of those guys will be in the squad anyway if they are fit with the possible exception of McLean. Jack is injury prone (at the moment anyway) and McTominay could break down again as he’s just back. If Clarke has a vacant spot in the squad for a midfielder after injuries then he might as well go for Gilmour over some English League one player that won’t get any minutes anyway. I’m not suggesting Gilmour should start against Israel but if, and admittedly it’s a big if, we are cruising against Israel with 20 mins to go then give him a run out and wrap McGinn or whoever he replaces in cotton wool for the next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, dohadeer said: It’s one match against an understrength Liverpool. Calm down. I totally get the sentiment, but considering how woeful our experiences have been this century, isn't it ok to get a bit excited now and again? One brilliant match against and under strength version of the best team in world football is better than no young Scots showing anything at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said: ?? Non entity? In no particular order, even if McGinn doesn’t make it, you’ve got Armstrong, Fleck, Jack, McTominay, McGregor, Christie, McGregor and McLean who are all likely to be called up before Gilmour this time round, and all playing at good level regularly Don't forget McGregor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Gilmour looked great tonight but I wouldn’t put him straight in the starting line up. I’d probably look to get him in the squad though. Basing it purely on playing well in one game against Liverpool isn’t right. McTominay, Fleck, McGinn, Armstrong and McLean have played very well against stronger sides than Liverpool put out tonight. I’d also argue that McGregor and Christie (against Lazio) shown this too. Probably Jack too. It’s impressive because he’s 18. Get him in the squad for experience but allow the guys who’ve played well for us and for their clubs for the whole season to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: Gilmour looked great tonight but I wouldn’t put him straight in the starting line up. I’d probably look to get him in the squad though. Basing it purely on playing well in one game against Liverpool isn’t right. McTominay, Fleck, McGinn, Armstrong and McLean have played very well against stronger sides than Liverpool put out tonight. I’d also argue that McGregor and Christie (against Lazio) shown this too. Probably Jack too. It’s impressive because he’s 18. Get him in the squad for experience but allow the guys who’ve played well for us and for their clubs for the whole season to start. Tbf the Liverpool side tonight had quite a few first team players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Great game by Gilmour. Chelsea have Jorginho out for two matches and Kovacic went off injured so he could well start their premier league games up to the break. Ridiculously stacked in central midfield now. Would call up Billy just for him to sample things at international level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Should be in the squad now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 He’s got the level we want and need . Even with a half dozen club European champions we don’t know if Scotland could produce a great national team , yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Templeton_Peck said: He has just bossed the midfield against the European champions and recently promoted to chelsea first team. He is on a real high and playing with so much confidence. FFS Get him in the squad. And if he plays a bad game for us, is he out of the squad? We are not starved for options, I say we play the long game with him and not put too much pressure ox expectations on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, romanticscot said: And if he plays a bad game for us, is he out of the squad? We are not starved for options, I say we play the long game with him and not put too much pressure ox expectations on him. We can call him up and even play him without doing that. He’s 18 and plays for Chelsea, he’ll be able to handle it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 get him in the squad, that alone will give the fans a bit of buzz and excitement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Whatever, from now the English press are gonna hype Gilmour . Seems level and having watched his progress the last few years he’s taken every step. I really enjoy when football shows that out and out athleticism doesn’t decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 8 hours ago, bigfingers said: Okay let's put a bunch of players into our biggest game in years who have never played together before and see what happens. Ok lets put a bunch of players into our biggest game in years who hace played together and done absolutely nothing snf see what happens........... A balance between experience and youthful talent is actually what we need. We have just watched scotlands most promising talent get MOTM against arguably the best side in the world. He should be called up and clarke should have the balls to.drop ome of the morw experienced players for him. Why? With the exception of mctominey i doubt any of the midfielders we hace would be selected for chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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