todd Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just been wondering if VAR was in use in all our previous internationals would we have perhaps qualified more often or even less often. Or indeed maybe even progressed to the later stages of tournaments. There must be a bucket load of contentious penalties, offsides, etc over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Wonder how many will mention Italy 2007 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Dunno about us, but there can hardly have been a penalty where the keeper wasn't off his line a wee bit. Just had a thought. A solution! Put a bungee cord on the keeper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Now, as much I will like this topic, most of us will be thinking of incidents for the positive, but there would have been numerous gone against us also - we nee dot remember those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide Tackle Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Lewondowski first goal was offside in the 2-2 game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 The penalty the Czechs had late on in the 2-2 match wouldn't have been given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) We wouldn't have the Maradona song 😰 Joe Jordan's was a penalty all day long. Edited June 20, 2019 by Grim Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 More recently we would have had a penalty against Cyprus . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Get var to fk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 Even more recently Belgiums second goal would have been ruled offside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Ireland's goal against us in Dublin would have been offside. As would Barry Ferguson's against Italy at Hampden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Also would probably have won 2-0 at Wembley in 1977 but drawn 0-0 in 1981 . Both dubious penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 McAllisters penalty against England at euro 96 would have been retaken as he struck a moving ball 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 We are assuming here that VAR refs see what we see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 We would likely have got a second penalty against Brazil at France '98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paper_lion Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: Wonder how many will mention Italy 2007 ... 3-0 Italy if you use VAR for the big decisions in that game. Unfortunately VAR can't be used on dodgy freekicks or we could've kept the hypothetical game to just a two nil defeat. Edited June 20, 2019 by paper_lion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 hours ago, paper_lion said: 3-0 Italy if you use VAR for the big decisions in that game. Unfortunately VAR can't be used on dodgy freekicks or we could've kept the hypothetical game to just a two nil defeat. That's how I seen it too. But ultimately either way we would have still lost the game and failed to qualify. A more critical example is probably the 2-2 draw with the Czechs in euro 2012, VAR would have seen us win that game and almost certainly make the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paper_lion Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, todd said: That's how I seen it too. But ultimately either way we would have still lost the game and failed to qualify. A more critical example is probably the 2-2 draw with the Czechs in euro 2012, VAR would have seen us win that game and almost certainly make the play offs. My memory is atrocious. I can barely remember that game other than the Fletcher goal. Had to re-watch the highlights. Presumably we'll get VAR in qualifiers within the next decade after a wrong decision gets made involving a big team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yeah that's always what it takes for change, one of the big guns being on the receiving end. Maybe it's just my english paranoia but it seemed that goal line technology was hurried after the Frank Lampard goal that never was against Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paper_lion Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, todd said: Yeah that's always what it takes for change, one of the big guns being on the receiving end. Maybe it's just my english paranoia but it seemed that goal line technology was hurried after the Frank Lampard goal that never was against Germany. It probably helped it along the way. Still salty about that goal. It cost me on a 300/1 bet on all eight results of the last 16 games. They'd probably have lost anyway. Should never have went for the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 14 hours ago, romanticscot said: Now, as much I will like this topic, most of us will be thinking of incidents for the positive, but there would have been numerous gone against us also - we nee dot remember those. To get some balance...we got a couple of soft penalties against Faroe Islands in the 6-0 win at Celtic Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 How much is var holding up football games??? They gonna finish at quarter past 5 nowadays?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Gran Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 John Collins handball on the line against Holland. Didn't really change anything, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I reckon there's going to be loads for this. The first one I thought of was Georgia away 2007, stonewall penalty in the first 20 odd mins not given when McFadden was brought down. Would undoubtedly have changed the game. And would have had a bearing on the Italy game. ps - good topic by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) Didn't France get a goal wrongly ruled offside against us at Hampden back in 2006 ? We should have got penalties against Georgia away in 2007 (McFadden fouled in the box) and Macedonia away in 2008 (Maloney fouled in the box). Edited June 22, 2019 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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