ErsatzThistle Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 In light of the recent David Turnbull and Celtic drama, I've been wondering ... How many similar cases have there been down the decades where a Scottish player rejected a transfer to either of the Old Firm, even after the clubs had agreed a fee ? Any from the 90's, 80's, 70's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) McFadden was continuously linked with Celtic, but think he would have gone if Celtic had stumped up the cash. Sure they offered us 20 quid for a season long loan and first option to buy at a price of their choosing before he went to Everton. Edited June 20, 2019 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ErsatzThistle said: In light of the recent David Turnbull and Celtic drama, I've been wondering ... How many similar cases have there been down the decades where a Scottish player rejected a transfer to either of the Old Firm, even after the clubs had agreed a fee ? Any from the 90's, 80's, 70's ? No idea if true or not but Willie Miller and McLiesh apparently told them to eff off. Ferguson played for Ranger but as a manager he told Rangers to eff off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: No idea if true or not but Willie Miller and McLiesh apparently told them to eff off. Ferguson played for Ranger but as a manager he told Rangers to eff off. My Dad told me he remembers that Rangers tried "at least twice" to sign Alex McLeish. I'm positive that Billy McNeill once said that during his first spell in charge of Celtic, he tried to sign Willie Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Struggling with this one. Eoin Jess seemed to be linked with rangers for at least 3 years or something, so not sure what happened there. I'd imagine there must have been loads of youth players in the 70s/80s that said no given how many Scots used to play in England back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketrocketman1888 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, JECK said: Struggling with this one. Eoin Jess seemed to be linked with rangers for at least 3 years or something, so not sure what happened there. I'd imagine there must have been loads of youth players in the 70s/80s that said no given how many Scots used to play in England back then. Wages/transfers were more of a level playing field until mexico 86 in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I remember McCoist trying to sign Craig Conway when he was leaving United and he went to Cardiff instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Mo Johnston and Nacho Novo. I think they sing songs about both of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Jim McLean famously told Rangers to get fucked, they then went for Souness. In hindsight, maybe the seethe started back then 😃. Goodwillie also papped them for Blackburn Edited June 21, 2019 by Jim Beem To point out he was wielding a hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Maybe any AFC or RFC fans can confirm but I seem to recall the Eoin Jess thing was just constant newspaper bullshit ? It did, rather amusingly, seem to go on for years 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Kevin Gallagher also turned Celtic down when he was at United. I seem to remember he worried about Celtic fans comparing him and living up to his Grandad Patsy. Actually this thread is pissing me off now, I’d almost forgotten we used to have some really good players 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, Jim Beem said: Jim McLean famously told Rangers to get fucked, they then went for Souness. In hindsight, maybe the seethe started back then 😃. It was actually Jock Wallace they went for after wee Jum and Fergie knocked them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Toepoke said: It was actually Jock Wallace they went for after wee Jum and Fergie knocked them back. re signed derek johnstone from chelsea, brought back the black & red socks still got humped by the dons tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool78 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 We can take Turnbull off this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jim Beem said: Goodwillie also papped them for Blackburn I remember that one. United kept knocking back the bids and Rangers kept coming back with extra £100,000 added to their offer, they made five or six bids The so called "journalists" and ex players writing for The Record and The Sun predictably moaned about how "Dundee Utd are being selfish in trying to stop Goodwillie's dream move to Ibrox". Rangers passed away a year or two later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: I remember that one. United kept knocking back the bids and Rangers kept coming back with extra £100,000 added to their offer, they made five or six bids The so called "journalists" and ex players writing for The Record and The Sun predictably moaned about how "Dundee Utd are being selfish in trying to stop Goodwillie's dream move to Ibrox". Rangers passed away a year or two later. 😂😂 That helped trigger the beginning of Rangers PROJECT SEETHE toward United 👍 They were absolutely fuming that we went with the highest bid.😤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jim Beem said: 😂😂 That helped trigger the beginning of Rangers PROJECT SEETHE toward United 👍 They were absolutely fuming that we went with the highest bid.😤 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: It was actually Jock Wallace they went for after wee Jum and Fergie knocked them back. Nah, McLean knocked them back end of 85/86. After Wallace left/got punted and just prior to Souness taking over. Souness, quite shrewdly to be fair, immediately moved to take Walter Smith away from United to Rangers as his assistant. 👍 Edited June 21, 2019 by Jim Beem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Jim Beem said: Nah, McLean knocked them back end of 85/86. After Wallace left/got punted and just prior to Souness taking over. Are you sure about that? Wallace left and Souness joined the same day IIRC. Rangers definitely went for McLean after John Grieg was bagged, although I think Ferguson was the first choice. I do remember Scotsport reports from outside Ibrox as wee Jim was locked in lengthy talks with the board before knocking them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Jim Beem said: 😂😂 That helped trigger the beginning of Rangers PROJECT SEETHE toward United 👍 They were absolutely fuming that we went with the highest bid.😤 I doubt it. We avoided one of the biggest wastes of space to fill a football Jersey. You did us a massive favour. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 2:26 PM, JECK said: Eoin Jess seemed to be linked with rangers for at least 3 years or something, so not sure what happened there Makes me think back to friday night scotsport (extra time?) and gerry mcnee 'exclusively revealing' Jess was Ibrox bound almost every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint4805 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I always thought that Gerry McNee was a big downgrade from Jock Brown. He became even more annoying after he turned up with that goatee beard for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, RenfrewBlue said: I doubt it. We avoided one of the biggest wastes of space to fill a football Jersey. You did us a massive favour. 😂 Now if only you lot had thought like that at the time, you could have saved thousands of palpations, burst blood vessels and I suspect, a few strokes. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: Are you sure about that? Wallace left and Souness joined the same day IIRC. Rangers definitely went for McLean after John Grieg was bagged, although I think Ferguson was the first choice. I do remember Scotsport reports from outside Ibrox as wee Jim was locked in lengthy talks with the board before knocking them back. 100%. McLean has talked often about it. Smith was up for the challenge which I suspect Souness got wind of. Not that there was any animosity for Smith leaving. You are right as well though, they had made an attempt previously in the early 80s (assume after Greig ) but that never even got off the ground if I recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Didn't Jim the Hammer's talks with Rangers break down because he made it a condition that if he became manager, the "nae cafflicks" policy had to end ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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