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Just now, The_Dark_Knight said:

Yeah, me, neither.

It's just when there was that article about Burke purging his Instagram that I went and had a look at a few players pages.

He's posted pictures of himself in action for Celtic and posing in a Celtic strip. I can only deduce from that that he's one of those players that has more pride playing for his club than his country.

Maybe so. Doesn't matter to me as long as he play's well for Scotland.

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49 minutes ago, Lairdyfaeinverclyde said:

Maybe so. Doesn't matter to me as long as he play's well for Scotland.

I didn't really say it was a bad thing or a good thing.

All I sad was that it's a thing.

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The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of KT playing at centre back. He did well there the couple of times he did it for Scotland and Celtic, and it solves two of our big problems in one go: a) a strong leader/player at CB, b) fitting one of our best players into the starting lineup.

It just seems to make more sense than putting him at RB where he wouldn't be as influential, and I think a weak RB isn't quite as dangerous as a weak CB. What do people think? Am I completely wrong here? 

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39 minutes ago, mrniaboc said:

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of KT playing at centre back. He did well there the couple of times he did it for Scotland and Celtic, and it solves two of our big problems in one go: a) a strong leader/player at CB, b) fitting one of our best players into the starting lineup.

It just seems to make more sense than putting him at RB where he wouldn't be as influential, and I think a weak RB isn't quite as dangerous as a weak CB. What do people think? Am I completely wrong here? 

He did really well against England playing in a three, that was under Strachan. Under McLeish we went through a spell of using three at the back before it was scrapped, mostly because the players didn't really know their jobs. 

Steve Clarke is a good manager. If he decided that play with three the players would know their jobs.

So yes, as part of a three Tierney would excel.

It gets my vote.

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On 5/22/2019 at 6:20 PM, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said:

Might be mistaken, but over the past 12 months, is that 3 competitive double headers plus a friendly double header he's missed?

I think he'll jack in the international team before he's 30 to 'prolong his club career'. 

He's missed seven matches in a row now.

And I was actually thinking that. I was thinking closer to 26.

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31 minutes ago, The_Dark_Knight said:

He's missed seven matches in a row now.

He missed the end of Celtics season so it's hardly worth noting that he missed the two games in June.

He was literally sent home after travelling to Kazakhstan.

He played for Celtic before and after the double header vs Albania and Israel. Unsure why he wasn't available for that.

Played in the important match for the Israel/Portugal double header.

 

If you were an outsider looking in, I'm not sure you'd be making too big a deal of that.

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1 minute ago, Tartan_McCole said:

He missed the end of Celtics season so it's hardly worth noting that he missed the two games in June.

He was literally sent home after travelling to Kazakhstan.

He played for Celtic before and after the double header vs Albania and Israel. Unsure why he wasn't available for that.

Played in the important match for the Israel/Portugal double header.

 

If you were an outsider looking in, I'm not sure you'd be making too big a deal of that.

McTominay will have played more matches in a year for Scotland than Tierney has in three.

I'm not making this up.

Go through this thread and you'll see other people doubting his commitment. It's not just me.

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Just now, The_Dark_Knight said:

McTominay will have played more matches in a year for Scotland than Tierney has in three.

I'm not making this up.

Go through this thread and you'll see other people doubting his commitment. It's not just me.

I'm not doubting either of those two statements.

I'd say it's a tad harsh going in on him for anything other than the double header he missed vs Albania and Israel, but that's just me.

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10 minutes ago, Tartan_McCole said:

I'm not doubting either of those two statements.

I'd say it's a tad harsh going in on him for anything other than the double header he missed vs Albania and Israel, but that's just me.

I just get the impression that he doesn't merit playing for Scotland that highly.

In this day and age the window into the soul of a person is through social media. With Burke, Robertson, McTominay they have photographs of them playing for Scotland. With Tierney it's 99% Celtic and 1% Still Game.

People can ridicule me all they like with me saying that but the fact is that social media is a popular platform for people these days. So I hear.

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6 minutes ago, The_Dark_Knight said:

McTominay will have played more matches in a year for Scotland than Tierney has in three.

I'm not making this up.

Go through this thread and you'll see other people doubting his commitment. It's not just me.

Simple question, why hasn't he played as many games as McTominay? The answer is in the link attached.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kieran-tierney/verletzungen/spieler/300716

 

 

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On 8/13/2019 at 3:05 PM, mrniaboc said:

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of KT playing at centre back. He did well there the couple of times he did it for Scotland and Celtic, and it solves two of our big problems in one go: a) a strong leader/player at CB, b) fitting one of our best players into the starting lineup.

It just seems to make more sense than putting him at RB where he wouldn't be as influential, and I think a weak RB isn't quite as dangerous as a weak CB. What do people think? Am I completely wrong here? 

Didn't exactly work in Israel. Nothing worked that night right enough.

I'd rather have Tierney at RB unless we can find a RB that doesn't fill me with dread.

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On 8/13/2019 at 3:49 PM, The_Dark_Knight said:

He did really well against England playing in a three, that was under Strachan. Under McLeish we went through a spell of using three at the back before it was scrapped, mostly because the players didn't really know their jobs. 

Steve Clarke is a good manager. If he decided that play with three the players would know their jobs.

So yes, as part of a three Tierney would excel.

It gets my vote.

3 at the back gets your vote? I'm shocked at this news.

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10 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:

Didn't exactly work in Israel. Nothing worked that night right enough.

I'd rather have Tierney at RB unless we can find a RB that doesn't fill me with dread.

Think it might work better in a back four than a back three though

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2 hours ago, Texas Pete said:

Didn't exactly work in Israel. Nothing worked that night right enough.

I'd rather have Tierney at RB unless we can find a RB that doesn't fill me with dread.

That was a 3 at the back mess and there was a lot more wrong with that starting lineup, and management effort. 

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22 minutes ago, The_Dark_Knight said:

I'm exhausted explaining the reasons why.

Either people don't get it or they don't want to get it.

Either way, life's too short.

Or maybe you're wrong? 

Whether you are or not doesn’t really matter though as Clarke has already stated he prefers 4 at the back and I can’t see him changing his mind anytime soon. 

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3 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said:

Think it might work better in a back four than a back three though

 

1 hour ago, mrniaboc said:

That was a 3 at the back mess and there was a lot more wrong with that starting lineup, and management effort. 

Fair points but sadly I think Tierney (when fit) might be our best right back and may well be a risk if played in central defence.

Unless he starts playing at centre half for Arsenal then I don’t think we should play him there. Central defence is a very important area of the pitch and I’m a firm believer in playing specialists in that position. I would imagine it would be easier to adapt to playing at RB for a LB than it would to play at CB. 

We would also lose out on his attacking ability (obviously not as good on the right as he would be on the left but he can still carry the ball at pace and get a cross in). 

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46 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:

Or maybe you're wrong? 

Whether you are or not doesn’t really matter though as Clarke has already stated he prefers 4 at the back and I can’t see him changing his mind anytime soon. 

We'll never know for certain as I've said multiple things that we'll probably never appoint a manager who attempts to bridge the gap of awful central defenders by playing with a three.

Last time that we qualified for a tournament using 4 at the back was 1990. That's all the ammo I need.

I know. Hope springs eternal, though.

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9 minutes ago, Texas Pete said:

 

Fair points but sadly I think Tierney (when fit) might be our best right back and may well be a risk if played in central defence.

Unless he starts playing at centre half for Arsenal then I don’t think we should play him there. Central defence is a very important area of the pitch and I’m a firm believer in playing specialists in that position. I would imagine it would be easier to adapt to playing at RB for a LB than it would to play at CB. 

We would also lose out on his attacking ability (obviously not as good on the right as he would be on the left but he can still carry the ball at pace and get a cross in). 

You are right he is our best right back (McTominay}might be better mind you) but playing him at centre back is no more of a risk than playing any of our "established" central defenders . I see what you are saying about central defence being a specialist position but I would say that Tierney has more of the skill set required to do the job than any of the other  defenders we have by and by fair bit.

Bad as our options at right back appear, I am starting to worry more about central defence. Matt Phillips could just about play right back and Paterson certainly can IMO although nobody else's by the look of things.

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20 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said:

You are right he is our best right back (McTominay}might be better mind you) but playing him at centre back is no more of a risk than playing any of our "established" central defenders . I see what you are saying about central defence being a specialist position but I would say that Tierney has more of the skill set required to do the job than any of the other  defenders we have by and by fair bit.

Bad as our options at right back appear, I am starting to worry more about central defence. Matt Phillips could just about play right back and Paterson certainly can IMO although nobody else's by the look of things.

I don't doubt Tierny could be a good central defender but I think he offers so much more as a full back (even on the right) but if he is the best option at CB and Clarke thinks so then I would have no problem with him playing there. Not sure I can see it happening though. I would far prefer it if McKenna and Souttar develop and possibly get a move to England or the Old Firm or even Europe somewhere and form a great partnership for us for the next 10 years

I though Paterson did OK for us at RB but it's not his natural position anymore and he looked rusty to me.

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