ScotlandWintheWorldCup Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 How would the last 20 years been different if we could have just won our games against the 4th,5th and 6th seeds. Containing the likes of Macedonia, Faroes and Liechtenstein, not exactly teams we shouldn't be beating. 00 - Same - Playoff w/ Eng 02 - Same - still finish 3rd 04 - Same - but would have finished equal 1st with Germany/ Playoff w/Holland 06 - Different - Would have been equal 1st with Italy/ Playoff w/ Czech Rep 08 - Different - Would have qualified 2nd ahead of France 10 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Norway in Group and knocked Ireland out of 2nd Place teams 12 - Same - Still behind Czech in 3rd place 14 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Croatia 16 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Ireland 18 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Slovakia and knocked Ireland out of 2nd Place teams It just shows how poor we have been against the teams we should be beating. It shows with the right manager we are not far away from getting there. We don't need to suddenly be beating the Italy's, Poland's or even the likes of Denmark to qualify, just win when we are supposed to!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandWintheWorldCup Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 Average points gained against the different seeds over the last 20 years HOME #1 = 1.11 #2 = 1.29 #3 = 1.71 #4 = 2.57 #5 = 2.36 #6 = 2.40 AWAY #1 = 0.67 #2 = 0.57 #3 = 0.86 #4 = 1.57 #5 = 2.00 #6 = 1.40 Shows where we are losing ground on our rivals to qualify. Most notably how poor we have been away from home against the #4 and #6 seeds. But also against the our main rivals for qualifying the #2 seeds, we are poor home and away against them. I'm just trying to show, maybe we need to go into these games with a different mental attitude instead of looking at the whole qualifying picture. Play against the bottom seeds like its against eng and really focus on the #2 seed at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Big picture, we'd be where we are today. Our FA doesn't care about the development of Scottish players, nor do our domestic teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotlandWintheWorldCup Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 These points averages should get better as the teams get worse. So the anomalies are the #2 & #6 seed away where we lose ground But most importantly the amount of points we are dropping at home to the #5 & #6 seeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 which is why we must be Cyprus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheSlope Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 If we win every game then we’d win every euros and World Cup Ludicrous thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 @ScotlandWintheWorldCup That is some good work there on the points average, appreciate that. It makes interesting/grim reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, UpTheSlope said: If we win every game then we’d win every euros and World Cup Ludicrous thread we are a mino ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 If your auntie had baws she would be your uncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/21/2019 at 10:59 AM, ScotlandWintheWorldCup said: How would the last 20 years been different if we could have just won our games against the 4th,5th and 6th seeds. Containing the likes of Macedonia, Faroes and Liechtenstein, not exactly teams we shouldn't be beating. 00 - Same - Playoff w/ Eng 02 - Same - still finish 3rd 04 - Same - but would have finished equal 1st with Germany/ Playoff w/Holland 06 - Different - Would have been equal 1st with Italy/ Playoff w/ Czech Rep 08 - Different - Would have qualified 2nd ahead of France 10 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Norway in Group and knocked Ireland out of 2nd Place teams 12 - Same - Still behind Czech in 3rd place 14 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Croatia 16 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Ireland 18 - Different - Would have been in Playoffs ahead of Slovakia and knocked Ireland out of 2nd Place teams It just shows how poor we have been against the teams we should be beating. It shows with the right manager we are not far away from getting there. We don't need to suddenly be beating the Italy's, Poland's or even the likes of Denmark to qualify, just win when we are supposed to!! Noticed one mistake - 2004 - We'd have won the group ahead of Germany. The lack of a top forward or two has been a major issue in being able to keep beating the sides lower than us in the rankings/seedings, not to mention an attitude towards these matches which stinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 The two away games in Georgia are the missed opportunities of the last decade. Win in Georgia in 2007 and I think would've only needed a point at home to Italy which would've been very achievable given how that game panned out. Win there in 2015 and play off would've been secured and maybe still a chance of finishing above Poland for 2nd place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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