Squirrelhumper Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Sounds a lot better than the current one. I'd glad we're staying plastic, even if it's just to annoy @ONeils4oyarder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Its fucking pathetic mate...you know it, and I know it. Yes, there are astro pitches that are top of the range, but a good grass park beats a good astro park every day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, ONeils4oyarder said: Its fucking pathetic mate...you know it, and I know it. Yes, there are astro pitches that are top of the range, but a good grass park beats a good astro park every day of the week. What is pathetic was your mob yesterday. Perfect grass pitch and you played like you'd never seen a football before, never mind grass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: What is pathetic was your mob yesterday. Perfect grass pitch and you played like you'd never seen a football before, never mind a grass!  He’s not even on the bench these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Was speaking to a killie fan in Kazakhstan who said he'd happily give up 10 points a season to go back to grass, shouldn't be allowed in the professional game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: What is pathetic was your mob yesterday. Perfect grass pitch and you played like you'd never seen a football before, never mind grass! That is also pathetic, correct. It looks to me that the players have downed tools for the season, which isn't acceptable. Â Astro pitches can take a fuck to themselves though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_McCole Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 14 hours ago, dan cake said: Was speaking to a killie fan in Kazakhstan who said he'd happily give up 10 points a season to go back to grass, shouldn't be allowed in the professional game What an odd remark. Why would a Kilmarnock fan care what surface they use, especially if it's one that clearly benefits them? Do people actually get a hard on for the good old days of grass parks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Why shouldn't plastic pitches be allowed in the professional game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 15 hours ago, dan cake said: Was speaking to a killie fan in Kazakhstan who said he'd happily give up 10 points a season to go back to grass, shouldn't be allowed in the professional game He sounds like a complete bellend. Which wouldn't exactly narrow it down in the Scotland away support. Funnily enough, I don't know any fans who'd give up points to play on grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Killies current pitch is one of the better ones. Accies is shocking. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an outbreak of football at NDP, and the surface is definitely partly to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Tartan_McCole said: What an odd remark. Why would a Kilmarnock fan care what surface they use, especially if it's one that clearly benefits them? Do people actually get a hard on for the good old days of grass parks? The bit about it clearly benefiting us is a complete fallacy. We were utter shite on it for 3 seasons, think we nearly went a year without a home win. We're good on it now as we've a decent manager/team. Exactly the same way that we're good away now. For example we've picked up more points at Pittodrie since the plastic went down, than we have at RP against Aberdeen. We've lost 4 times at home this season and 3 times away. Albeit, we've drawn more away but doubt there's many teams who win more away games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_McCole Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: The bit about it clearly benefiting us is a complete fallacy. We were utter shite on it for 3 seasons, think we nearly went a year without a home win. We're good on it now as we've a decent manager/team. Exactly the same way that we're good away now. For example we've picked up more points at Pittodrie since the plastic went down, than we have at RP against Aberdeen. We've lost 4 times at home this season and 3 times away. Albeit, we've drawn more away but doubt there's many teams who win more away games. It depends how you look at it. I'd say it benefits Kilmarnock as players from other teams are uncomfortable/unable to play on it. Indirect benefit. I'm not trying to say you're like 2010/2011 Barcelona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 45 minutes ago, Tartan_McCole said: say it benefits Kilmarnock as players from other teams are uncomfortable/unable to play on it. Go back to 2015-2017 and look at how many pumpings we took on that pitch and tell me others teams can't play on it! It's only a problem for other teams if we're playing well. Barely heard a peep when we were getting scudded on it every second week under Locke, Clark or McCulloch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 You cannae seriously say that its not an advantage to you boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, ONeils4oyarder said: You cannae seriously say that its not an advantage to you boys Is the slope at FP an advantage to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 The Motherwell players see the Fir Park pitch once a fortnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 4 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Why shouldn't plastic pitches be allowed in the professional game? Because big Jessies like Paterson might get injured and miss the rest of the season...... oh ......wait a minute...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ONeils4oyarder said: The Motherwell players see the Fir Park pitch once a fortnight Which is still a hell of lot more than any other team. Your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 That Killie have a far bigger advantage using their kid-on grass than Motherwell do on a daft wee slope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, ONeils4oyarder said: That Killie have a far bigger advantage using their kid-on grass than Motherwell do on a daft wee slope In your opinion. Motherwell train on kid on grass plenty. Most teams do on a regular basis, Christ, some even have halls in their training complex's which have pitches with kid on grass on them. As I said, wasn't even an issue when we were getting pumped by 3, 4 or 5 regularly on it. It's only now that teams are starting to lose on it. that folk are on their high horse. it's not like we don't pickup points away. If Motherwell could have picked as many points at home (on grass) and we could away (on grass) then maybe they'd not be downing tools in April. For the record, we were absolutely rank rotten at Hamilton this season on plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Of course its my opinion, ya big fud  Under McCulloch and the previous other numpties that you had in charge, you'd have been butt-fucked on any surface you played on. Now you have a manager that knows what he is doing and has you playing to system that suits, you're a match for any team on grass, but there is no getting away from the point that you're plastic pitch is a benefit to you. Gary Holt has recently said that his astro pitch is a leveller for his side as well.  Motherwell train at Dalziel Park on grass...unless they are forced indoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, ONeils4oyarder said: Of course its my opinion, ya big fud  Under McCulloch and the previous other numpties that you had in charge, you'd have been butt-fucked on any surface you played on. Now you have a manager that knows what he is doing and has you playing to system that suits, you're a match for any team on grass, but there is no getting away from the point that you're plastic pitch is a benefit to you. Gary Holt has recently said that his astro pitch is a leveller for his side as well.  Motherwell train at Dalziel Park on grass...unless they are forced indoors. You have just defeated your own point and backed up SH by saying that the pitch gave no advantages whatsoever when the manager/team were pish. You can't say it wasn't an advantage but now is simply because they have a better manager. If it was a benefit then it would have been a benefit whoever was in charge, maybe not to the same degree with a better team and manager but they would have gained some benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Not at all...the pitch is always an advantage, but if you've got a shite team and a shite manager then that advantage is negated somewhat, by the fact that the players and management are haddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: In your opinion. Motherwell train on kid on grass plenty. Most teams do on a regular basis, Christ, some even have halls in their training complex's which have pitches with kid on grass on them. As I said, wasn't even an issue when we were getting pumped by 3, 4 or 5 regularly on it. It's only now that teams are starting to lose on it. that folk are on their high horse. it's not like we don't pickup points away. If Motherwell could have picked as many points at home (on grass) and we could away (on grass) then maybe they'd not be downing tools in April. For the record, we were absolutely rank rotten at Hamilton this season on plastic. It's always been an issue. From day one and from the very first ball that was kicked on it. Personally, the home advantage issue is an irrelevance. Every team has home advantage for whatever reason. It's the fact your pitch is utter shite, looks utter shite and plays utter shite that warrants comment. Edited April 10, 2019 by SMcoolJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: You have just defeated your own point and backed up SH by saying that the pitch gave no advantages whatsoever when the manager/team were pish. You can't say it wasn't an advantage but now is simply because they have a better manager. If it was a benefit then it would have been a benefit whoever was in charge, maybe not to the same degree with a better team and manager but they would have gained some benefit. Correct, he knows this though. Our away record now is better than most teams in the league are at home. The benefit of having the pitch is minimal IMO, with the calibre of the manager being head and shoulders above any other reason or our good home form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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