Caledonian Craig Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Christie did improve things but some people didn't notice that. Christie and Fraser both add something different to the team and it shows as they do chip in with important goals. And that is even with them not being in the absolute best club form too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: McGregor, McTominay and McGinn were all rank rotten last night. In the first half I'd swear we were playing with no midfield. It improved greatly with Christie coming on and players seemed to wake from their slumber. This. On the rare occasions they got the ball they proceeded to do eff all with it. There was a time we all wanted an on-form McGregor into the team and the manager wouldn't listen, but now we seem to have the exact opposite. I've no idea what McGinn's role was in the first half. Did he even get a touch? How were we so outnumbered seemingly everywhere on the park? Even when they were attacking look at the bodies they pushed forward. Considering how utterly sh*te we were - far, FAR worse than on our last visit (I think we had 17 shots last time) - a point was a good result. I would've bitten your hand off for a point at half-time it was that fkin bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I've been watching Scott since he first broke through. I've seen him develop and grow and mature into a fine player. There's no doubt that he's grown into an established EPL player. He's one of my favourite players. There is one major flaw in his game, though. I've been noticing it more and more. He's simply not aggressive enough. He doesnt press enough and he has this habit of ball watching... instead of pressing. I was hoping that when Darren Fletcher got a coaching gig at Manchester United his aggression would've rubbed off on McTominay. No chance of that happening now. Fletcher was only in the door for 5 minutes when United offered him the Technical Director job. Ole should bring in Roy Keane on a part time basis in order to add a bit of devil to McTominay's game. Below are telling EPL stats. Both play in the same role for their club: Scott McTominay: 8 yellow (5 seasons in the EPL) Fernandiho: 28 yellow + 4 red (5 seasons in the EPL) 8 yellows in 5 years is fine if you're a player playing in the final third of the park, but McTominay is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: I've been watching Scott since he first broke through. I've seen him develop and grow and mature into a fine player. There's no doubt that he's grown into an established EPL player. He's one of my favourite players. There is one major flaw in his game, though. I've been noticing it more and more. He's simply not aggressive enough. He doesnt press enough and he has this habit of ball watching... instead of pressing. I was hoping that when Darren Fletcher got a coaching gig at Manchester United his aggression would've rubbed off on McTominay. No chance of that happening now. Fletcher was only in the door for 5 minutes when United offered him the Technical Director job. Ole should bring in Roy Keane on a part time basis in order to add a bit of devil to McTominay's game. Below are telling EPL stats. Both play in the same role for their club: Scott McTominay: 8 yellow (5 seasons in the EPL) Fernandiho: 28 yellow + 4 red (5 seasons in the EPL) 8 yellows in 5 years is fine if you're a player playing in the final third of the park, but McTominay is not. Berti Vogts - who may not have set the heather alight with us but who still knew a thing or two about international football - once said two attributes he prized highly in an international footballer were height and aggression. There is no issue with the first attribute where McTominany is concerned, but maybe there is room for improvement with the second. Roy Keane, though, shouldn't be within 100 miles of a coaching job, part-time or otherwise. His track record in that department has shown him to be completely unsuitable for that kind of role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Yellow and Red cards don’t make you a good player. The latest in a now sadly long history of nonsense spouting drivel from TDK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, scotlad said: Berti Vogts - who may not have set the heather alight with us but who still knew a thing or two about international football - once said two attributes he prized highly in an international footballer were height and aggression. There is no issue with the first attribute where McTominany is concerned, but maybe there is room for improvement with the second. Roy Keane, though, shouldn't be within 100 miles of a coaching job, part-time or otherwise. His track record in that department has shown him to be completely unsuitable for that kind of role. Spot on. It's the only thing really lacking from his game. It's the intensity and the pressing and aggression that players like Fabinho, Kante, Fernandinho have. It's not about the cards (I'm sure some people won't get the point) it's about getting around people and being aggressive and putting them under duress. Besides, all you have to do is breathe on a player and you'll get booked nowadays. 😛 lol. Well, he could be useful part time... but maybe not. Edited April 13, 2021 by Taylor1996 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I saw activity on this thread and came on the scene to make sure he wasn't injured, as you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Taylor1996 said: Spot on. It's the only thing really lacking from his game. It's the intensity and the pressing and aggression that players like Fabinho, Kante, Fernandinho have. It's not about the cards (I'm sure some people won't get the point) it's about getting around people and being aggressive and putting them under duress. Besides, all you have to do is breathe on a player and you'll get booked nowadays. 😛 lol. Well, he could be useful part time... but maybe not. Keane was an excellent footballer and with everything he has learned about the game over the years he could be really helpful for a young player. Unfortunately he is also the owner of a massive ego, a short temper and below-zero levels of emotional intelligence, which make him completely unsuitable for anything that requires frequent interaction with other people. He's best left where he is - verbally tearing strips out of overpaid, underperforming footballers on Sky Sports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, scotlad said: Keane was an excellent footballer and with everything he has learned about the game over the years he could be really helpful for a young player. Unfortunately he is also the owner of a massive ego, a short temper and below-zero levels of emotional intelligence, which make him completely unsuitable for anything that requires frequent interaction with other people. He's best left where he is - verbally tearing strips out of overpaid, underperforming footballers on Sky Sports! lol He definitely dances to the beat of his own drum. I do think his influence brought the United standards to a consistent level, but when it got the point were his off the field influence outweighed what he did on the pitch, it was time to go. He was actually brought in to give the current squad motivational talks, about a month or so ago... won't surprise you to learn that he almost got into a fight with Martial. lol. Agreed. He isn't the most tactically astute pundit, but at least he says exactly what's on his mind with only the swearing filter used. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, romanticscot said: I saw activity on this thread and came on the scene to make sure he wasn't injured, as you were. Gladly, not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: Spot on. It's the only thing really lacking from his game. It's the intensity and the pressing and aggression that players like Fabinho, Kante, Fernandinho have. It's not about the cards (I'm sure some people won't get the point) it's about getting around people and being aggressive and putting them under duress. Besides, all you have to do is breathe on a player and you'll get booked nowadays. 😛 lol. Well, he could be useful part time... but maybe not. The role model for pressing would be David Beckham. He wasn’t especially gifted but he worked very hard on the pitch and off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 59 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: The role model for pressing would be David Beckham. He wasn’t especially gifted but he worked very hard on the pitch and off it. True. He got out every single drop of talent he had and he bridged the gap between talent and work. McTominay has added a lot of strings to his bow, but if he added more work-related and aggression, he would improve immensely. Not saying he's lazy, but he does seem to forget that he's built like a tank. He should watch clips of prime Darren Fletcher (09/10). He was world class that season. Too bad his illness deprived him of more glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: lol He definitely dances to the beat of his own drum. I do think his influence brought the United standards to a consistent level, but when it got the point were his off the field influence outweighed what he did on the pitch, it was time to go. He was actually brought in to give the current squad motivational talks, about a month or so ago... won't surprise you to learn that he almost got into a fight with Martial. lol. Agreed. He isn't the most tactically astute pundit, but at least he says exactly what's on his mind with only the swearing filter used. 😛 The phrase "he could start a fight with himself" could have been invented for Roy Keane. To be fair, I think his heart is in the right place - his desire is for the team as a whole to be successful, and that desire is genuine. Unfortunately, to realise that ambition, other human beings have to be included in the equation, and that's when the problems start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Keane would be a great manager for a team of players who are willing to learn and respect what he achieved in the game and give 100% etc but he’s never gonna get that. Read a few of his books and he comes across well mostly and did well at Sunderland for a bit but he came across as petty doing the pundit circuit talking about his arguments with a few of the Irish lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Being a top midfielder nowadays has nothing to do with aggression in the sense of getting yellow cards. What McTom needs to learn is when its ok to just be aware of a player, have him in his sights etc and when the need is to get close to them before they receive the ball. He will hopefully learn that over time. He has a tendency to not close somebody down until they recieve the ball which at the top level in the final 3rd is too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, scotlad said: The phrase "he could start a fight with himself" could have been invented for Roy Keane. To be fair, I think his heart is in the right place - his desire is for the team as a whole to be successful, and that desire is genuine. Unfortunately, to realise that ambition, other human beings have to be included in the equation, and that's when the problems start! lol I heard the dictionary elders have altered the phrase from "He/she could start a fight in an empty room" to "Roy Keane would start a fight in an empty room". It definitely is. I would actually attribute a lot of United's success, as well as instilling a certain standard of work to the class of 92, to him. I was watching a lot of highlights of when Ireland qualified for the World Cup in 2002. His contribution was monstrous. He dragged them almost singlehandedly (with help from Robbie Keane) to that World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: Being a top midfielder nowadays has nothing to do with aggression in the sense of getting yellow cards. What McTom needs to learn is when its ok to just be aware of a player, have him in his sights etc and when the need is to get close to them before they receive the ball. He will hopefully learn that over time. He has a tendency to not close somebody down until they recieve the ball which at the top level in the final 3rd is too late. Forget about yellow cards, that's pretty much a metaphor. Yeah. That's my point. I've been noticing it more and more this season. He has the reluctance to press. With our system (as well as United's system), with the double-pivot, he has to press higher, and in case he loses his man or gets lost, he has his partner to cover for him. In 09/10 Darren Fletcher was amazing at it. I remember a game against Arsenal where he bullied their entire midfield by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 He speaks incredibly well and with such a maturity, for someone who is essentially, still young. If he adds more intensity to his game, he'll be the complete package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 It's been a good 15 minutes. As I say that, he allows a Burnley player to shoot... I really wish he was more proactive out of possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 One of his best performances in a while. Rarely wasted a ball. Almost scored twice. 104 touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Banned from the Euros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 If he is, England will have to play a C team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Banned from the Euros? Who is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, scotlad said: Who is? He means if this mooted European Super League is given the green light. I doubt it will go ahead as Fifa would pretty much bab every single player that participates. Edited April 18, 2021 by Taylor1996 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: He means if this mooted European Super League is given the green light. I doubt it will go ahead as Fifa would pretty much bab every single player that participates. Ah, right, thanks. That makes sense. I can't see the Super League going ahead, not in the near future. Like you say, England would have to field a virtual C team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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