ceudmilefailte Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, bazmidd said: I never ever said a 3 couldn't work I was actually an advocate for trying it at the beginning of the Nations League, but I never ever saw it as the solution to all our problems and that by simply changing to 3 at the back everything was solved. We looked ropey the first few friendlies we played it, which was understandable as it was new. It seemed to work in attacking sense in our first Nations League match v Albania but still looked vulnerable in defence which this was meant to solve. This was then completely brought home to roost in Israel when we were cut open time and again with balls in behind our wing back who didn't appear to have a clue how to play the position, this then stretched our centre halves to cover them and we were continually wide open. I was an advocate for it, we tried it and it didn't work. That's not to say that giving time it wouldn't work, but we simply don't have the luxury of time at international level to work on these things. That result in Israel almost cost us and the formation was to blame. At this moment and time we need to play a way the players are familiar with unless of course we are going ultra defensive v say Belgium and we string 5 across the back but I wouldn't expect those full backs to be doing too much attacking as if they did in the way they did in Israel it would be a cricket score. So for games we just want to shut up shop yes maybe the 5 has a place but for now against teams similar to ourselves the 4 just simply works better with the players we have I think you have summed up everything there. If we want to compete against teams we are better than, teams we are equal to or the team(Russia)who might be better than us we need to have all our top players in their correct positions . We can try to head to head with Belgium but a back five with something like another back five in midfield is probably our best chance of any kind of result. That guy who said the future of international football would be playing without a striker probably had us in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Chripper said: Look at the results of the past 18 years, I think you'll find that it's very unlucky. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Bain Tierney Souttar McKenna Robertson McGinn McTominey Forrest McGregor Burke Paterson Lets be honest here, if we dont take 6 points from these games and indeed 9 from the first 3 games,.. we should be nowhere near international football. We should quit and demolish hampden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, jamboman said: Bain Tierney Souttar McKenna Robertson McGinn McTominey Forrest McGregor Burke Paterson Sorry, but I'll get the fear if that's the 11! 😧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 22 hours ago, Bino's said: Just seen Fraser is 'out' Fraser our most potent forward player isn't playing because he had ACL damage 4 years ago What the fuck do they think this is, a kickabout down the park From my reckoning we know have, who are fit and play every week. McGregor, Brown, Fletcher, Fraser, Patterson, Ritchie, McArthur and Snodgrass all refusing to play for their country That is probably also the list of all our highest paid players at their clubs Disgrace I couldn't agree more with this, the spineless SFA and manager won't say a fucking word about it. I don't get to the same amount of games as I used but I feel sorry for those who travel through thick and thin, they are the ones being sold short. Fraser and Bournemouth can suck my plums, as you say this isn't a kick about down the local park, its a competitive match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I couldn't agree more with this, the spineless SFA and manager won't say a fucking word about it. I don't get to the same amount of games as I used but I feel sorry for those who travel through thick and thin, they are the ones being sold short. Fraser and Bournemouth can suck my plums, as you say this isn't a kick about down the local park, its a competitive match Cost's a higher percentage of my disposable income to go to any game than some of the elite, plenty other's are the same I would hardly say it's just the travelling support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 hours ago, jamboman said: Bain Tierney Souttar McKenna Robertson McGinn McTominey Forrest McGregor Burke Paterson Lets be honest here, if we dont take 6 points from these games and indeed 9 from the first 3 games,.. we should be nowhere near international football. We should quit and demolish hampden can't believe anyone thinks that Paterson is our best striking option regardless of the paucity of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Let's face facts: the SFA, McLeish and the Scotland players don't deserve us. It used to be that players would put their heads where no normal person wouldn't put their feet, players would put their bodies on the line for the honour and privilege representing Scotland. Now where are we? Players don't want to play on plastic surfaces incase they get injuries. Poor wee souls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Chripper said: Let's face facts: the SFA, McLeish and the Scotland players don't deserve us. It used to be that players would put their heads where no normal person wouldn't put their feet, players would put their bodies on the line for the honour and privilege representing Scotland. Now where are we? Players don't want to play on plastic surfaces incase they get injuries. Poor wee souls. To be fair, a number of high profile players have same attitude, Henry, Drogba, Ibrahimovic etc have all came into scrutiny in the MLS for picking and choosing their games down to pitches (sure Henry pulled a major huffy over a game years ago). Gary O’Connor has blamed plastic pitches in Russia as part of the reason his later career was hampered with injuries. Everton were without 9 first team players for a European game a few years back due to a plastic pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, jamboman said: Bain Tierney Souttar McKenna Robertson McGinn McTominey Forrest McGregor Burke Paterson Lets be honest here, if we dont take 6 points from these games and indeed 9 from the first 3 games,.. we should be nowhere near international football. We should quit and demolish hampden Only change I'd make to that is to remove Paterson, play Burke upfront and play Armstrong in his place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, wanderer said: To be fair, a number of high profile players have same attitude, Henry, Drogba, Ibrahimovic etc have all came into scrutiny in the MLS for picking and choosing their games down to pitches (sure Henry pulled a major huffy over a game years ago). Gary O’Connor has blamed plastic pitches in Russia as part of the reason his later career was hampered with injuries. Everton were without 9 first team players for a European game a few years back due to a plastic pitch. About time they were banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, wanderer said: To be fair, a number of high profile players have same attitude, Henry, Drogba, Ibrahimovic etc have all came into scrutiny in the MLS for picking and choosing their games down to pitches (sure Henry pulled a major huffy over a game years ago). Gary O’Connor has blamed plastic pitches in Russia as part of the reason his later career was hampered with injuries. Everton were without 9 first team players for a European game a few years back due to a plastic pitch. Fair enough. Maybe I'm being a wee bit harsh. If it's so universally hated then plastic pitches should be banned. They have no place in professional football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Assuming everyone is fit, for Kazakhstan, I'd probably go for: Bain O'Donnell - McKenna - Mulgrew - Robertson McGregor - McGinn Fraser - Armstrong - Forrest McBurnie Mulgrew in ahead of Souttar being purely for experience reasons and O'Donnell ahead of Tierney at right-back as he's an actual right-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Clyde1998 said: Assuming everyone is fit, for Kazakhstan, I'd probably go for: Bain O'Donnell - McKenna - Mulgrew - Robertson McGregor - McGinn Fraser - Armstrong - Forrest McBurnie Mulgrew in ahead of Souttar being purely for experience reasons and O'Donnell ahead of Tierney at right-back as he's an actual right-back. Fraser can't play the Kazakhstan game, plastic pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said: Fraser can't play the Kazakhstan game, plastic pitch. Looks like Mcburnie is out aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils4oyarder Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: O'Donnell ahead of Tierney at right-back as he's an actual right-back. He's not very good though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Clyde1998 said: Assuming everyone is fit, for Kazakhstan, I'd probably go for: Bain O'Donnell - McKenna - Mulgrew - Robertson McGregor - McGinn Fraser - Armstrong - Forrest McBurnie Mulgrew in ahead of Souttar being purely for experience reasons and O'Donnell ahead of Tierney at right-back as he's an actual right-back. Mulgrew. Are you insane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 What do celtic fans think of Burke? Where has he been playing, up top or out wide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Also, anybody see bates regularly? I'd rather have a better option than soutar. Stuart Findlay would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Morrisandmoo said: What do celtic fans think of Burke? Where has he been playing, up top or out wide? He has been playing as a forward, bizarrely ahead of French Eddy. I really like Burke. He is still really raw but game time is improving him. If McBurnie and Paterson are indeed unavailable, I'd have no problem starting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Morrisandmoo said: Also, anybody see bates regularly? I'd rather have a better option than soutar. Stuart Findlay would have done. Seems to have really been taken in by the HSV fans and getting some really good reviews (club have nicknamed him the "Ginger Ramos"). Think next season will tell a lot of Hamburg can get back into Bundasliga , as Budasliga 2 is rather poor this year and it is no wonder Hamburg and Koln are running away with it (though Union Berlin are breathing down their necks) and 3rd Liga is actually getting more attention this year with all the big names in their this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Morrisandmoo said: Also, anybody see bates regularly? I'd rather have a better option than soutar. Stuart Findlay would have done. Findlay should be in the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushet84 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Bain O'Donnell McKenna Mulgrew Robertson (c) Mcginn Mctominay Mcgregor Armstrong Forrest Burke Then for san Marino I would swap McKenna for Bates Robertson for Tierney Mcgregor for Ryan Fraser (as he is not allowed to play on a plastic pitch or else he would be in) Burke for Paterson (same reason as Ryan Fraser) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMcD Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, wanderer said: Seems to have really been taken in by the HSV fans and getting some really good reviews (club have nicknamed him the "Ginger Ramos"). Think next season will tell a lot of Hamburg can get back into Bundasliga , as Budasliga 2 is rather poor this year and it is no wonder Hamburg and Koln are running away with it (though Union Berlin are breathing down their necks) and 3rd Liga is actually getting more attention this year with all the big names in their this season. Hamburg still have to play both Köln & Berlin away. Couple of bad results and they could be in the play-off spot. Don’t know what you’re basing your comments re. 3. Liga on. Apart from 1860 Münich, Kaiserslautern & Eintracht Braunschweig who are the „big“ names in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, SteveMcD said: Hamburg still have to play both Köln & Berlin away. Couple of bad results and they could be in the play-off spot. Don’t know what you’re basing your comments re. 3. Liga on. Apart from 1860 Münich, Kaiserslautern & Eintracht Braunschweig who are the „big“ names in the league. Derek Rae was chatting about how much better 3. liga compared to Budasliga 2 this season a week or two ago, with the teams you mention, plus Cottbus (who would yo-yo between Budalisga and Budasliga 1 until fairly recently) and Hansa Rostock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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