Chripper Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, csinclair said: I have enough confidence in Bates & McKenna with McTominay in front of them that we wouldn't have to play players out of position to make us harder to break down. Bloody hell... you have more faith in the team than I do. Russia and Belgium will take at least 8 points from us when the Euro Qualifications begin. We are a team of limited ability, we simply have to be moulded into a team that's hard to beat, no matter what. We've been easy to play against for far too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Chripper said: Bloody hell... you have more faith in the team than I do. Not exactly a high bar tho, is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, andyD said: Not exactly a high bar tho, is it. No. I think my faith is all gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampdenroarpod Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Recorded a Hampden Roar podcast today debating McLeish's choices for the squad. https://audioboom.com/posts/7199993-kazakhstan-and-san-marino-preview https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/14-kazakhstan-and-san-marino-preview/id1432582074?i=1000431631553&mt=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Does anyone else think he'll give Scott Bain and Jon McLaughlin one game each ? I said at the time, it was daft of McLeish not to have given McLaughlin more appearances in last years friendly matches. Looks like David Marshall must have "withdrawn from selection" given his absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I could go in goals on my way home from the pub v San Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, bonny78 said: I could go in goals on my way home from the pub v San Marino. You could, and we'd lose 73-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 hours ago, Chripper said: We are a team of limited ability, we simply have to be moulded into a team that's hard to beat, no matter what. We've been easy to play against for far too long. Absolutely. I doubt many Scotland fans would disagree with that. Its possible to achieve the above with 4 or 5 at the back. We defend as a team. McLeish played 451 in Paris and limited a strong French team to a couple of decent chances, absolutely no reason why on our day we can frustrate a good Belgium side also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: Absolutely. I doubt many Scotland fans would disagree with that. Its possible to achieve the above with 4 or 5 at the back. We defend as a team. McLeish played 451 in Paris and limited a strong French team to a couple of decent chances, absolutely no reason why on our day we can frustrate a good Belgium side also. Please tell me you aren’t comparing the team now to the 2006-07 team? We now have league 1 players, a squad with strikers who’s combined goals tally is zero and less players who are playing at a good level generally than then. Theres any number of reasons why we won’t be able to frustrate Belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Please tell me you aren’t comparing the team now to the 2006-07 team? We now have league 1 players, a squad with strikers who’s combined goals tally is zero and less players who are playing at a good level generally than then. Theres any number of reasons why we won’t be able to frustrate Belgium. I wasn’t, more a point that a back 4 is capable of being hard to beat with a well organised approach to defending. Whether or not this team is significantly weaker than 2007 is another debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, ProudScot said: Please tell me you aren’t comparing the team now to the 2006-07 team? We now have league 1 players, a squad with strikers who’s combined goals tally is zero and less players who are playing at a good level generally than then. Theres any number of reasons why we won’t be able to frustrate Belgium. To be fair, we are talking only two players (and one of them is on loan from Celtic) at Sunderland, who should be nowhere near League One... but granted that is football for you) so its hardly calling up a player from AFC Wimbledon or Walsall..... and both these players will most likely have to settle for the bench at the most (lets face it, we all know Bain will start these games!). So its hardly a true reflection of the whole squad. Strikers we are just really unlucky just now that ALL our main ones are missing just (missing one or two is unlucky, but all of them is extreme.... Griffiths, Fletcher, Naismith, Phillips etc....) McBurnie should have been given a fair run of games to help him settle in to the team, rather than be the fall guy for a poor performance in friendlies! Granted, I am far from his biggest fan as every time I have seen him play for Scotland since U19 level, he has always looked a bit Bambi-ish for my liking.... but his goals for Swansea this season speak for themselves, and think these two games could be exactly what he needs for going forward. Just a bit unlucky just now with a few things, but I am hardly worried for these two games, as I think the quality is still there to get the job done in both matches, but I would be more worried if we had this same situation in September going into the Russia-Belgium double header. I do not think anyone is convinced we can win the group (Belgium in a friendly last year walked all over us without breaking a sweat) but I feel on our day we could match with Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 One game at a time, wins will build confidence, no excuses for not going and getting 6 points, can worry about Belgium and Russian afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Rude Gullit said: You could, and we'd lose 73-0 Really. We wouldn't score???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Based on the squad announcement and the understanding that Fraser and Paterson won't play, I'd be looking at something like this - Bain O'Donnell Bates McKenna Robertson McTominay Forrest McGinn Armstrong McGregor McBurnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: Based on the squad announcement and the understanding that Fraser and Paterson won't play, I'd be looking at something like this - Bain O'Donnell Bates McKenna Robertson McTominay Forrest McGinn Armstrong McGregor McBurnie I would swap McGregor for McGinn and put one of the wide men in there probably Burke. I'd rather have Forrest on the left though and let him drift inside and have Burke on the right. Tierney at Right Back for me as he's just simply too good to leave out. So.. Bain Tierney. Bates. McKenna. Roberston McTominay Burke. Armstrong. McGregor. Forrest McBurnie Edited March 13, 2019 by bazmidd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, bazmidd said: I would swap McGregor for McGinn and put one of the wide men out there probably Burke That is pretty much what I first wrote down but just don't think it is the match to try Burke in another new position. The other thing I thought about was Tierney at LB, and Robertson at LM but again, it's not really the game for experimenting. Fraser is a huge loss. IMO, he's our best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: That is pretty much what I first wrote down but just don't think it is the match to try Burke in another new position. The other thing I thought about was Tierney at LB, and Robertson at LM but again, it's not really the game for experimenting. Fraser is a huge loss. IMO, he's our best player. Actually now you mention it I wouldn't be adverse to seeing that the other way around with Robertson left back and Tierney left mid. Tierney has the ability and turn of pace to get past a man from standing position whereas Robertson tends to attack from deep and overlap his winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Agreed on Fraser though by far our most dangerous attacking player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Bain Tierney. Bates. McKenna. Roberston McTominay Burke. Armstrong. McGregor. Forrest McBurnie a first 11 good enough to win both games. Please no more injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Suspect it will be Tierney or O'Donnell in for Patterson, McTorminie for Christie, Burke for Fraser and McBurnie for Fletcher, which to be honest is acceptable as you are replacing like for like, or for better in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, bigfingers said: Bain Tierney. Bates. McKenna. Roberston McTominay Burke. Armstrong. McGregor. Forrest McBurnie a first 11 good enough to win both games. Please no more injuries. I would be happy with that choice of team. Shame Fraser isn't able to play but Burke could do well there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Is there a reason Steven Fletcher isn't in the squad considering he played and scored last night and actually had one of his better games v Israel last time out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart87 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: Is there a reason Steven Fletcher isn't in the squad considering he played and scored last night and actually had one of his better games v Israel last time out? Steven Fletcher: Scotland striker absent as he 'manages injury' - McFadden http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47551253 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, bonny78 said: Really. We wouldn't score???? No - because your distribution from goals would be really shoddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 McLaughlin is having an excellent season for Sunderland. He should get the nod over Bain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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