phart Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, dandydunn said: Interesting that a lot of opinions on here for footballers to play for team gb would be hated for life, but it was ok for Murray to do it? Hopefully he doesn’t make Wimbledon, if he does, the UJ wankfest will be unbearable towards him. Other's will know better but the argument with Team GB was it could possibly affect the Scotland team and even a tiny chance was too big a risk. While with Murray that scenario was never replicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Aye it would've been nice to see the Murray brothers turn out for Scotland but it was never a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Interesting that a lot of opinions on here for footballers to play for team gb would be hated for life, but it was ok for Murray to do it? Hopefully he doesn’t make Wimbledon, if he does, the UJ wankfest will be unbearable towards him. Totally different scenario altogether. Football is a team sport and Scotland play as an individual country but the fear about Team GB competing in the Olympics was that it could run the risk of seeing Scotland disbanded as an international team in international football. In tennis Andy Murray plays as an individual and Scotland do not have an international team in tennis in the Davis Cup it competes under the name of GB so there was no threat whatsoever to Murray competing in the Olympics and no comeback either from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Totally different scenario altogether. Football is a team sport and Scotland play as an individual country but the fear about Team GB competing in the Olympics was that it could run the risk of seeing Scotland disbanded as an international team in international football. In tennis Andy Murray plays as an individual and Scotland do not have an international team in tennis in the Davis Cup it competes under the name of GB so there was no threat whatsoever to Murray competing in the Olympics and no comeback either from it. He didn’t have to represent Britain though, he chose to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, dandydunn said: He didn’t have to represent Britain though, he chose to. Hmm so going by your logic then he should not have bothered playing tennis at all then on the basis that the ATP rank him as representing GB as it does not recognise Scotland as a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Hmm so going by your logic then he should not have bothered playing tennis at all then on the basis that the ATP rank him as representing GB as it does not recognise Scotland as a country. Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, dandydunn said: Yup Stunning thinking there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Stunning thinking there. Thanks Scotland forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Shit, wrong log in....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, dandydunn said: Thanks Scotland forever Yes I get that statement but what part of Scotland for never in tennis don't you understand? Scotland do not exist in the world of tennis and the only way an uber-talented player from these shores can display his talents and win the biggest titles in the world is to have two letters after his name - GB. Now are you telling me you point blank refuse to buy any goods without a Scotland flag on it? No I guess not. You probably work for a UK company. Do you consider resigning on principle. Of course not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes I get that statement but what part of Scotland for never in tennis don't you understand? Scotland do not exist in the world of tennis and the only way an uber-talented player from these shores can display his talents and win the biggest titles in the world is to have two letters after his name - GB. Now are you telling me you point blank refuse to buy any goods without a Scotland flag on it? No I guess not. You probably work for a UK company. Do you consider resigning on principle. Of course not. You would be incorrect. I work for a local, built in Aberdeen company. Everything else is pretty much spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, dandydunn said: You would be incorrect. I work for a local, built in Aberdeen company. Everything else is pretty much spot on. So there you have it. You want Andy Murray to give up his love of playing tennis because the international tennis authorities do not allow him to represent Scotland but it is alright for you to go on buying British goods or watching British made television shows and listen to British pop music? What I am saying is if you think Murray should throw away all his massive tennis talents to make a political point then you should be prepared to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: So there you have it. You want Andy Murray to give up his love of playing tennis because the international tennis authorities do not allow him to represent Scotland but it is alright for you to go on buying British goods or watching British made television shows and listen to British pop music? What I am saying is if you think Murray should throw away all his massive tennis talents to make a political point then you should be prepared to do the same. You’re making an awful lot of assumptions about me. I buy Scottish & local produce, I don’t watch a lot of tv and I hate pop music. If you want to celebrate the heritage of being British, please feel free, I merely stated the wankfest that will happen at Wimbledon will be unbearable. Surely I’m allowed my opinion without you trying to bully and ostracise me on the internet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Thanks Scotland forever Hey you. Thats copyright. Andy murray is already down as a scottish sporting hero. Legend. Scotland forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, dandydunn said: You’re making an awful lot of assumptions about me. I buy Scottish & local produce, I don’t watch a lot of tv and I hate pop music. If you want to celebrate the heritage of being British, please feel free, I merely stated the wankfest that will happen at Wimbledon will be unbearable. Surely I’m allowed my opinion without you trying to bully and ostracise me on the internet? A bit of kettle, pot and black there. After all you are the one daftly feeling sure Murray should not have played international tennis because of two letters he had after his name. Who said anything about celebrating being British. If he plays at Wimbledon I will be saluting Andy Murray's great tennis career ending. And for your information I'm well nigh certain Andy made financial contribution to the 2014 independence campaign and has often said he supports an independent Scotland. And as plaudits go Nicola Sturgeon is wholesome in his praise - I don't see her trying to hint he is some kind of traitor. Sorry if you think I was bullying you, I wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: A bit of kettle, pot and black there. After all you are the one daftly feeling sure Murray should not have played international tennis because of two letters he had after his name. Who said anything about celebrating being British. If he plays at Wimbledon I will be saluting Andy Murray's great tennis career ending. And for your information I'm well nigh certain Andy made financial contribution to the 2014 independence campaign and has often said he supports an independent Scotland. And as plaudits go Nicola Sturgeon is wholesome in his praise - I don't see her trying to hint he is some kind of traitor. Sorry if you think I was bullying you, I wasn't. Now you’re just being outright racist against me, reported. No need for that whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Same here, I only ever watched Wimbledon till Murray arrived on the scene. I ended up going to three slams, ATP Finals 3 times and queens once because of him. Luckily I saw him at all of those except queens. Tennis is a great sport and its far from pompus. Come on, it's a Tory pursuit, a hobby for toffs, a sit on your arse and drink champagne sport, it's utter garbage. Murray is a good guy but it's a minority sport that stirs little emotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mox said: Come on, it's a Tory pursuit, a hobby for toffs, a sit on your arse and drink champagne sport, it's utter garbage. Murray is a good guy but it's a minority sport that stirs little emotion. So Andy didn't bring the sport to the masses? May have been upper class but it's now a sport we all take note of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mox said: Come on, it's a Tory pursuit, a hobby for toffs, a sit on your arse and drink champagne sport, it's utter garbage. Murray is a good guy but it's a minority sport that stirs little emotion. At Wimbledon or Queen's Club maybe. But you're talking about one of the top 5 most popular global sports. Edited January 12, 2019 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mox said: Come on, it's a Tory pursuit, a hobby for toffs, a sit on your arse and drink champagne sport, it's utter garbage. Murray is a good guy but it's a minority sport that stirs little emotion. You're not even close to being right but congratulations on posting a high level of ignorance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: At Wimbledon or Queen's Club maybe. But you're talking about one of the top 5 most popular global sports. Queens is full of pretend posh people, Wimbledon isn't unless you are paying for the very expensive seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davierobbsagod Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 hours ago, dandydunn said: You’re making an awful lot of assumptions about me. I buy Scottish & local produce, swilken clubs in your bag ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 hours ago, davierobbsagod said: swilken clubs in your bag ? Nope, I nicked mine out of Paul Lawries car 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Also worth commending him on getting right up the nose of a wide section of Middle England, simply because he is Scottish. The seethe from the Jeremy Bates and Tim Henman fan club was quite something. Top man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 On court now for possibly the last time? Live on Eurosport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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