Eisegerwind Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Nice enough picture. Not really bothered about the price, it's worth what someones willing to pay. Apparently it's a 'modern masterpiece' why'?. Edited November 17, 2018 by Eisegerwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I think the whole high price art thing is just a way to move funds from illegal activities around. I can't think of any reason they cost so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, phart said: I think the whole high price art thing is just a way to move funds from illegal activities around. I can't think of any reason they cost so much. Yeah, but as I said, ' Not really bothered about the price, it's worth what someones willing to pay '. It's the 'modern masterpiece' thing I don't get. "Hockney’s 1972 masterpiece" Christie's. "Hockney with fresh intensity: ‘as we flew in over Los Angeles I looked down to see blue swimming pools all over, and I realised that a swimming pool in England would have been a luxury, whereas here they are not, because of the climate." Fucking deep stuff. Edited November 17, 2018 by Eisegerwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Yeah, but as I said, ' Not really bothered about the price, it's worth what someones willing to pay '. It's the 'modern masterpiece' thing I don't get. "Hockney’s 1972 masterpiece" Christie's. "Hockney with fresh intensity: ‘as we flew in over Los Angeles I looked down to see blue swimming pools all over, and I realised that a swimming pool in England would have been a luxury, whereas here they are not, because of the climate." Fucking deep stuff. That's the cover story to justify the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, phart said: That's the cover story to justify the price. You're telling me that 'art dealing' is a money laundering operation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: You're telling me that 'art dealing' is a money laundering operation? That or a secret currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 He did have to suffer for his art right enough. " Hockney worked 18 hours a day non-stop for two weeks to finish his painting, finally completing it the night before it was due to be shipped to New York ". Oh the horror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 If anybody gets the chance, visit this place: http://saltsmill.org.uk/mobile/ Spent many days there. You might change your opinion. You might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bobster said: If anybody gets the chance, visit this place: http://saltsmill.org.uk/mobile/ Spent many days there. You might change your opinion. You might not. I'd give that a go. I don't really have an opinion to change or not. As I said it's a nice picture, what makes it a masterpiece? A stolen quote, do they have a guide about how long you're meant to look at each piece. Edited November 17, 2018 by Eisegerwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobster Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I’d guess what makes it a masterpiece is that it’s a piece of work done with an incredible amount of skill. I guess not all would agree with that but seeing his work close up, I would. I’ve stood and looked at some of his work for a few minutes. Others I’ve sat and looked at for a good half an hour. Whether you like Hockney or not, Salts Mill is a stunning building and if you’re in that part of the world is worth a visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I love in how the articles about it the price dictates the "worth" of the piece. Art dealer Stephen Howes said Portrait of an Artist (Pool with Two Figures) was "truly one of the most iconic paintings of the 20th Century". The sale, he continued, "galvanizes the piece's rightful place as a true masterpiece and further cements Hockney's place in the highest echelons of art history." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 15 hours ago, phart said: I think the whole high price art thing is just a way to move funds from illegal activities around. I can't think of any reason they cost so much. https://nypost.com/2013/05/15/43-8-million-for-this/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Yon white line kind of wastes it. I much prefer Yves Klein's IKB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 In art & design class at school I had to write an essay on "the meaning" of these two paintings by Hockney I was totally stumped and ended up writing about five or six hundred words of complete and utter Grade A bollocks. I passed the NAB, No wonder I ended up posting on the TAMB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 About 10 years ago, I was involved - as a supplier - in a big IT project with a European bank. This involved me going to Vienna once a month for a steering committee meeting. The project was very challenging - understatement - and these meetings were often fraught and tense affairs. We were either in the boardroom or an ante room and in common with a lot of bank offices there was a fair bit of modern art on the walls. In the ante room there was one particular piece which was a large canvas about 3m by 3m which was essentially a deep red crimson textured canvas. I found this very disturbing and so I always tried to get a seat so it would be to my back. We got the project over the line in the end and so the final wrap up meeting was very pleasant and they'd laid on a very buffet lunch in the ante room and a glass of wine before heading to the airport. I was speaking to someone from the client and mentioned to her that I found the painting disturbing and said that she'd knew the history of the project and how there had often been "blood on the walls" in some of those meetings. I wasn't expecting the response which was "yes, it is blood, this is a famous Austrian artist who uses his own blood". i was very glad that was the last time I was in that room. it was a piece by this guy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Nitsch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofitharder Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/18/2018 at 5:15 PM, ErsatzThistle said: In art & design class at school I had to write an essay on "the meaning" of these two paintings by Hockney I was totally stumped and ended up writing about five or six hundred words of complete and utter Grade A bollocks. I passed the NAB, No wonder I ended up posting on the TAMB On 11/18/2018 at 5:15 PM, ErsatzThistle said: In art & design class at school I had to write an essay on "the meaning" of these two paintings by Hockney I was totally stumped and ended up writing about five or six hundred words of complete and utter Grade A bollocks. I passed the NAB, No wonder I ended up posting on the TAMB It looks like he has dived in then got out and he has lost his trunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, hoofitharder said: It looks like he has dived in then got out and he has lost his trunks. ...which unravelled in the pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Toepoke said: ...which unravelled in the pool. Yeah, knitted trunks were murder for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 9:57 PM, Eisegerwind said: Nice enough picture. Not really bothered about the price, it's worth what someones willing to pay. Apparently it's a 'modern masterpiece' why'?. Looks like a still from a Duran Duran video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Maybe I just like photography more, but could do without the people and just gaze at this... Edited November 19, 2018 by Grim Jim asthetics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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