WeeJohnny Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Dinnae get me wrong, always want us to win everything but just been scratching my heid on the rules 're level on points (as we would be with Israel if we win in Albania). I reckon we'd not qualify with a draw against Israel ? So purely from perspective of winning the group no difference draw or win ? (And before someone says I'm being negative - no I'm no suggestin we play for a draw!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 We need to avoid a 3-0 defeat (or worse) to set up a winner takes all v Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doric Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 A 3 0 defeat is a real possibility. This is a Macedonia Georgia type game for us with an even weaker team that played them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Need to win this and go into the Israel game with a bit of confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, WeeJohnny said: Dinnae get me wrong, always want us to win everything but just been scratching my heid on the rules 're level on points (as we would be with Israel if we win in Albania). I reckon we'd not qualify with a draw against Israel ? So purely from perspective of winning the group no difference draw or win ? (And before someone says I'm being negative - no I'm no suggestin we play for a draw!). We need to beat Israel no matter what happens in Albania. The result in Albania will determine how many goals we need to beat Israel by at Hampden. If we get 1 or 3 points in Albania then any victory over Israel will see us win the group. If we lose 3-0 (or worse) in Albania that brings Albania back into contention and we would need to beat Israel by at least 3 goals. Away goals might also come into play. So far we are the only team to score an away goal. Another one (or two even) in Albania would be very handy. One interesting combination of results would be if we lost 1-0 in Albania and beat Israel 2-1 we would be dead level with Israel and it would go down to disciplinary record. I think we are currently on 6 points and Israel are on 5. We have two games to play to their one so we are probably more likely to pick more cautions than them. So I think Israel would win that one. The bottom line is though, that we need two wins to get home advantage in the first play off semi final. 7 points probably won't be enough for that. Edited November 13, 2018 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4Footsoldier Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I think what it comes down to this weekend is that we can't win the group in the next game with Albania but we can certainly put ourselves out of contention if we lose badly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I am a wee bit more confident for this game than I usually am for away games. Albania know that they need to win by a good few goals. If we could somehow manage to score first, they would then need to score 4. Maybe their confidence and enthusiasm might drain a wee bit and we might hold on to a scrappy 0-1 win? That would do for me. We would still need to beat Israel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham of Montrose Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 In my opinion, we have to win this game to avoid feckin embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I predicted we'd lose both away games and win both home games, and I stand by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally boy 69 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Struggling to find any reason to believe we can either or both games, everything around the Scotland is negative, with players left out, pulled out or choosing to be left out, getting minimum 4 points is going to be very very difficult indeed, we are in a very bad way right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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