ceudmilefailte Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Half time 1-0 Israel For my love of stats 33-67% possession 67-85% pass success 128-281 passes 5-8 shot 1-5 shots on target 4-8 corners The Israel goal was an Albanian keeper mistake and the Israel goalkeeper has been credited with an assist for it. We should beat Albania no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Half time 1-0 Israel For my love of stats 33-67% possession 67-85% pass success 128-281 passes 5-8 shot 1-5 shots on target 4-8 corners The Israel goal was an Albanian keeper mistake and the Israel goalkeeper has been credited with an assist for it. We should beat Albania no problem Still 1-0 at 75 minutes I guess we'd be better off if this was a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, exile said: Still 1-0 at 75 minutes I guess we'd be better off if this was a draw. Doesn’t matter the result. We need to win both games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, dandydunn said: Doesn’t matter the result. We need to win both games. A draw in Albania and a win at hampden would do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2-0 Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Malcolm said: A draw in Albania and a win at hampden would do? Yes - that'll do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 2-0 FT. So Israel have the momentum. They could come to Hampden knowing a draw could be enough? Maybe that away goal by Charlie Mulgrew will be precious Edited October 14, 2018 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: Yes - that'll do it. But are we good enough to break down a team that knows a draw is enough? We need to win them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton_Peck Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 A loss by 1 goal in albania and then beating israel better than 2-1 will see us top. A loss by 2 goals in albania means we will need to beat israel by 2 goals. A loss by 3 goals in albania will mean we need to beat israel by 3 goals. Whatever we do in albania then we will need to beat israel. So in effect a win in albania puts us in same situation as 1-0 loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, dandydunn said: But are we good enough to break down a team that knows a draw is enough? We need to win them both. If we beat or draw with Albania we still need to beat israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The game against Albania is insignificant unless we lose by 2 goals or more. We need to beat Israel or we’re out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, exile said: 2-0 FT. So Israel have the momentum. They could come to Hampden knowing a draw could be enough, unless Scotland beat Albania by enough goals to make that count. Maybe that away goal by Charlie Mulgrew will be precious Beating Albania 6-0 would still mean we need to beat Israel. A draw against Israel would mean we’re out on head-to-head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Templeton_Peck said: Whatever we do in albania then we will need to beat israel. So in effect a win in albania puts us in same situation as 1-0 loss. From the point of view of promotion and play-offs. But we are also simultaneously trying to stave off relegation. If we were to lose to Israel at home, we'd be glad of the win in Albania. Two losses and we'd be in danger of going down (though it depends on other groups). Not to scaremonger by mentioning the R word, but I don't think we can go into the Albania thinking a loss is OK just because we can always have the chance of winning the last game at home (a similar argument to Georgia in 2007, albeit needing to beat Italy...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: Beating Albania 6-0 would still mean we need to beat Israel. A draw against Israel would mean we’re out on head-to-head. Yes, I realised that and partially corrected it before the editor ran out of time But I don't think it's insignificant to lose to Albania, for reasons just stated, as we'd then be in danger of being really 'out' - not out of the running for promotion, but out meaning relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just shows how pathetic we were in israel that Albania could go there and dominate possetion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, 1ANDYP said: Just shows how pathetic we were in israel that Albania could go there and dominate possetion. But got humped 2-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, exile said: Yes, I realised that and partially corrected it before the editor ran out of time But I don't think it's insignificant to lose to Albania, for reasons just stated, as we'd then be in danger of being really 'out' - not out of the running for promotion, but out meaning relegation. True but finishing top is much more of an advantage than being relegated is a disadvantage. Being relegated is kinda like getting a higher golf handicap...more chance of winning next time. I was about to say finishing 3rd in this group would be preferable to 2nd but I remembered 2nd could be good enough for a play off...if Israel qualify in the own right in the actual qualifying stage. Anyway, what I was getting at was the Israel game is HUGE, Albania game isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 If we can score in Albania they would need to score 4 to overtake us (assuming we beat Israel). So if we lose 3-1 in Albania, a 1-0 victory over Israel at Hampden would see us winning the group. How cool would that be? Winning the group on away goals over both the other two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: True but finishing top is much more of an advantage than being relegated is a disadvantage. Being relegated is kinda like getting a higher golf handicap...more chance of winning next time. I was about to say finishing 3rd in this group would be preferable to 2nd but I remembered 2nd could be good enough for a play off...if Israel qualify in the own right in the actual qualifying stage. Anyway, what I was getting at was the Israel game is HUGE, Albania game isn’t. As long as we don't lose 3-0 or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton_Peck Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 If we get relegated then we will be in pot 4 or 5 in the qualifying.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Super_Scotlandfan said: True but finishing top is much more of an advantage than being relegated is a disadvantage. Being relegated is kinda like getting a higher golf handicap...more chance of winning next time. I was about to say finishing 3rd in this group would be preferable to 2nd but I remembered 2nd could be good enough for a play off...if Israel qualify in the own right in the actual qualifying stage. Anyway, what I was getting at was the Israel game is HUGE, Albania game isn’t. That's what i told myself when we were cast down into League C. But it looks as if winning is no easier down here than when we were seeded higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Orraloon said: If we can score in Albania they would need to score 4 to overtake us (assuming we beat Israel). So if we lose 3-1 in Albania, a 1-0 victory over Israel at Hampden would see us winning the group. How cool would that be? Winning the group on away goals over both the other two teams. Very depressing. Have you seen the other team in this pot?? Romania and serbia will tear us apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 That'll be Israel winning the group then. We'll lose or draw in Albania and draw with Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRobRoy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Israel chose their new manager well, then. That's a useful knack to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Which play-off route will suit us best? Finishing top may well give us an easier option you would think bu then it may be better to finish second? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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