ErsatzThistle Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Anyone on here attend any of these matches during the Roxburgh and Broon eras ? Found this on the old archived SFA page. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20061230103232/http://www.scottishfa.co.uk:80/scottish_football.cfm?curpageid=528 Quote 28 April 1987 Scotland 1 (McAllister 54), France 1 (Ferer 21). Pittodrie Stadium, Aberdeen (7,500) Scotland: Gunn (Norwich City), McKimmie (Aberdeen), McLeish (Aberdeen), Clarke (Chelsea), Robertson (Aberdeen), Simpson (Aberdeen), McAllister (Leicester City) (sub Ferguson (St Mirren) 65), Wilson (Leicester City), Nevin (Chelsea), Nicholas (Arsenal), McAvennie (West Ham Utd). 27 March, 1990 Scotland 0, Yugoslavia 0. Fir Park, Motherwell (8,288) Scotland: Gunn (Norwich City) (sub Money (St Mirren)), Clarke (Chelsea), Munro (Rangers), McPherson (Heart of Midlothian), Boyd (Motherwell), Whyte (Celtic), I Ferguson (Rangers) (sub W McKinlay (Dundee United) sub Nevin (Everton)), Grant (Celtic), Stephen (Nancy) (sub Gallacher (Coventry City), McAllister (Leicester City), Durie (Chelsea) (sub Robertson (Heart of Midlothian) 46). 24 April 1990 Scotland 1 (Stephen 67), East Germany 2 (Whyte og 22, Weidermann 46). McDiarmid Park, Perth Scotland: Gunn (Norwich City), Boyd (Motherwell), Munro (Rangers), McPherson (Heart of Midlothian), Hendry (Manchester City), Whyte (Celtic) (sub Nevin (Everton) 46), Black (Metz) (sub Stephen (Nancy) 65), Grant (Celtic), McClair (Manchester United), Connor (Aberdeen), Robertson (Heart of Midlothian) (sub Gallacher (Coventry City) 46). 2 February 1994 Wales 2 (Roberts, Pembridge pen.), Scotland 1 (McCart). Racecourse Ground, Wrexham Scotland: Maxwell (Rangers) (sub Nelson (Partick Thistle) 46), Wright (Aberdeen), Millen (Kilmarnock), McCart (Motherwell), Robertson (Rangers), Telfer (Luton Town) (sub Gemmill (Nottingham Forest) 46), W McKinlay (Dundee United), Hutchison (Liverpool) (sub McSkimming (Kilmarnock)), McKinnon (Motherwell), Booth (Aberdeen) (sub Dailly (Dundee United)), Jess (Aberdeen). 21 February 1995 Scotland 3 (Tweed, Jackson, Wright), Northern Ireland 0. Easter Road, Edinburgh (5,067) Scotland: Walker (Partick Thistle) (sub Woods (Motherwell) ), Martin (Motherwell), O’Neil (Celtic), Tweed (Hibernian), Wright (Aberdeen), Lambert (Motherwell) (sub Cameron (Raith Rovers) 46), Rae (Millwall) (sub Henry (Kilmarnock) ), McGinlay (Hibernian), McKinnon (Motherwell) (sub McCart (Motherwell) ), Jackson (Hibernian), Brown (Kilmarnock) (sub Dodds (Aberdeen) 46). 10 October 1995 Sweden 1 (Anderson), Scotland 2 (Shearer, Brown). Rasunda Stadium, Stockholm (1,232) Scotland: Walker (Partick Thistle) (sub Gunn (Norwich City)), Martin (Motherwell), Tweed (Hibernian), Whyte (Middlesbrough), Telfer (Coventry City), Rae (Millwall) (sub Cameron (Raith Rovers)), Bernard (Aberdeen) (sub Lambert (Motherwell) 46), Gemmill (Nottingham Forest), McKinnon (Motherwell), Creaney (Manchester City) (sub Harper (Hibernian) 46), Shearer (Aberdeen) (sub Brown (Kilmarnock)). 23 April 1996 Denmark 3 (Larsen 44 & 68, Andersen 71), Scotland 0. Nykobing Falster Stadium, Nykobing Falster (3,796) Scotland: Walker (Partick Thistle) (sub Watt (Aberdeen) 46), McNamara (Celtic), Martin (Motherwell), O’Neil (Celtic) (sub Robertson (Heart of Midlothian)), Whyte (Middlesbrough), Nevin (Tranmere Rovers), Lambert (Motherwell), Jess (Coventry City), Glass (Aberdeen) (sub Booth (Aberdeen) 46), Durie (Rangers) (sub Shearer (Aberdeen)), McGinlay (Bolton Wanderers) (sub Cameron (Heart of Midlothian) 46). Referee: Jarmo Karhunen (Finland) 24 March 1998 Scotland 4 (McIntosh 41, Cleland 47, Wright 54, Cameron 55), Wales 0. Broadwood Stadium, Cumbernauld (5,989) Scotland: Gould (Celtic) (sub Douglas (Dundee)), Cleland (Rangers), McKinlay (Celtic), Rae (Sunderland) (sub Johnston (Sunderland)), McIntosh (Stockport County), Ritchie (Heart of Midlothian), Cameron (Heart of Midlothian), Crawford (Hibernian) (sub Dodds (Aberdeen)), Wright (Kilmarnock) (sub Freedman (Crystal Palace)), Fulton (Heart of Midlothian) (sub Glass (Aberdeen)), McCann (Heart of Midlothian). 21 April 1998 Scotland 1 (Crawford 69), Norway 2 (Aarsheim 33, Helstad 65) Tynecastle Stadium, Edinburgh (7,845) Scotland: Gould (Celtic) (sub Main (St Johnstone)), Cleland (Rangers), McKinlay (Celtic), Rae (Sunderland) (sub Reilly (Kilmarnock)), McIntosh (Stockport County), Ritchie (Heart of Midlothian), Crawford (Hibernian), Hopkin (Leeds United), Smith (Dunfermline) (sub McIntyre (Reading)), Wright (Kilmarnock) (sub Johnston (Sunderland)), McCann (Heart of Midlothian). Over 8,000 at Fir Park to see a friggin B game and nearly that again in 1998 at Tynecastle Tickets must have been cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Couple of the early sides wound be A sides now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I went to a couple at Rugby Park against Finland and Poland around 2007/2008. Can't remember the crowds but think they were okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 Btw a special mention should go to Bryan Gunn, Nicky Walker, Colin Cameron, Stevie Crawford, Derek Whyte, Rob McKinnon, Pat Nevin and yes even Alex Rae. All turned out at least three times each, plenty of other players would have refused or feigned injury I'm sure. Perhaps I'm stretching it a bit but all the aforementioned must have been keen to represent Scotland, turning up on multiple occasions like they did for these highly unglamorous games. It's curious that a certain young Liverpool player called Don Hutchison played against Wales B in 1994 and yet wasn't capped until 1999 whilst at Everton. Any reason for this ? Strange too that Alex McLeish and Charlie Nicholas played in the game against France B in 1987 when they were already first team picks for the senior team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 11 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: It's curious that a certain young Liverpool player called Don Hutchison played against Wales B in 1994 and yet wasn't capped until 1999 whilst at Everton. Any reason for this ? Strange too that Alex McLeish and Charlie Nicholas played in the game against France B in 1987 when they were already first team picks for the senior team. Hutch had a lot of disciplinary issues early in his career which probably kept him out the reckoning. I remember the press labelling him a "bad boy" when he started coming into contention for a place. In hindsight he'd have been a great addition to the Euro 96 and France 98 squads, and I'm sure Craig Brown would be first to admit it. When Roxy came in he brought Alan Hansen back into the team so maybe that was why McLeish was given a run out with the B squad. Charlie didn't feature much after Mexico 86, once McCoist and Johnston became the established strike partnership he was out the equation altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 13 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: Btw a special mention should go to Bryan Gunn, Nicky Walker, Colin Cameron, Stevie Crawford, Derek Whyte, Rob McKinnon, Pat Nevin and yes even Alex Rae. All turned out at least three times each, plenty of other players would have refused or feigned injury I'm sure. Perhaps I'm stretching it a bit but all the aforementioned must have been keen to represent Scotland, turning up on multiple occasions like they did for these highly unglamorous games. It's curious that a certain young Liverpool player called Don Hutchison played against Wales B in 1994 and yet wasn't capped until 1999 whilst at Everton. Any reason for this ? Strange too that Alex McLeish and Charlie Nicholas played in the game against France B in 1987 when they were already first team picks for the senior team. Darren Anderton was called up for a Scotland B team in the early 90's, but apparently Roxburgh did not care for him in training and never even bothered to put him into the team on match day (Craig Brown has told a story on his after dinner speaking circuit that it was sickening at Euro 96, as Anderton was the best player in the England team and should have been lining up for us that day). McLeish asked to play in that France B game, as I think he was just back from injury, and had been in and out of the squad for a while (he even played a few U21 games as a over aged player around the same time) as Roxburgh was convinced that Hansen and Gough was the new Scotland central defense partnership, before Hansen chucked it and he reverted back to Miller and McLeish for the WC campaign (but still tinkered about). Hutchison when he was younger (especially when he was at West Ham) had a really bad reputation for taking no prisoners when it came to going into tackles (this apparently made him popular with Souness during his spell as Liverpool manager) and held him back/made him unpopular with the Scotland set up (he has even admitted this in interviews). Attended a few over the years, and one that sticks out was Northern Ireland at Firhill under Vogts, as he effectively called up a mixture of U21's and first team regulars (Hutchison was captain!) as it was just a couple of weeks before the Scotland - Germany match at Hampden. Austria away there was this brilliant video doing the rounds of Ludo jumping the fence and playing along with the marching band that did the national anthems 😂 Germany away under Smith in Mannhiem was a good trip, be a really depressing match (think it was 2004 and Germany had made a big deal that their team was "Germany 2006", and I do not think any players made that team, and only a hand full gained caps). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, wanderer said: Germany away under Smith in Mannhiem was a good trip, be a really depressing match (think it was 2004 and Germany had made a big deal that their team was "Germany 2006", and I do not think any players made that team, and only a hand full gained caps). It was in the middle of December and absolutely freezing - one of the coldest games I've ever been at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, aaid said: It was in the middle of December and absolutely freezing - one of the coldest games I've ever been at. We stayed in Mainz and the Christmas market had just started, so we full use of the mulled wine and beer while we were there (missed the 2002 which was suppose to have been excellent). Flight across from Prestwick was full of German students, and two of them were actually from Mannhiem, and recommended a rock garage bar which we stumbled upon after the match when we had 4 hours to kill before the train back to Mainz. Edited October 5, 2018 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Who was McIntosh from Stockport in a couple of the 98 teams? Stockport were a top end championship team in those days, similar to Brentford now. Nowadays they're not even in the top division of the English non league structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said: Who was McIntosh from Stockport in a couple of the 98 teams? Stockport were a top end championship team in those days, similar to Brentford now. Nowadays they're not even in the top division of the English non league structure. Here ya go... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_McIntosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tartan Chris said: Who was McIntosh from Stockport in a couple of the 98 teams? Stockport were a top end championship team in those days, similar to Brentford now. Nowadays they're not even in the top division of the English non league structure. Martin McIntosh. Defender who made a name for himself at Clydebank and Hamilton Accies in the mid 90’s. Went to Stockport and like you said was part of Dave Jones team that made the League Cup semi-finals and knocked a few big teams out along the way (I do not think they were ever a top end Championship team though.... established League 1 team at best). Hibs spent a fortune to bring him back to Scotland (Jim Duffy team?) were he was a dud and was quickly shipped off back to England, where he spent a long time at Rotherham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Remember going to the France game at Pittodrie. We had a very strong line up but I think there some pretty decent players in the French team as well though from what I can remember wasn't particularly great match. Would have been quite cheap to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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